Welcome to the USA. This happened yesterday in Murrieta. Watch:
Lupillo Rivera is related to the late Jenni Rivera, the legendary singer who advocated for immigration reform during her life. He is her brother.
fido55 I agree with you 100percent. people keep making this into an issue of race. I am a mexican,german,asian AMERICAN, I am proud of my mexican and American culture but at the end of the day I AM AN AMERICAN. This is not an issue of race. We are only asking that are borders be more secure. that is it . fido55 is not denying that latinos have helped in building this country,all races of america have helped in building this country. When people get angry and start turning this into a race issue people do not tend to listen and we all get distracted from the real immigration issues. We only want the immigration laws of the US to be followed. We do not want anyone of any natinality to enter illegally. It is not fair to the other people who have been waiting in line for years for a chance to enter this great country. To only have someone cut in line demanding for reform for entering illegally. I am also married to a great man from Chihuahua Mexico. He is legally in this country. he considers himself an american. it hurts when you see that people are allowed to break the law and allowed a pardon for breaking our laws.
gigi34 As you seem to have forgotten, while looking to place the burden of supporting countless people on our backs.
People like u does not help the cause either, this is not only your nation it is other people’s too.
No one is destroying your nation, this nation has destroyed itself, I suggest that if you don’t have anything better to say then do not reply to my post because what u are saying is irrelevant and has no meaning.
What about the REAL racists (La Raza) who were there, chanting about la Reconquista. Do they really think that helps the situation? We’ve got people breaking in to take benefits and live off Americans who are already under financial pressure, and racists chanting about themselves and the newcomers destroying our nation.
I’m tired of hearing people belittle hispanics, nobody is trying to get credit here but the racist people in the US need to educate themselves that coming to this country is not easy and I say it because I’m a daughter of immigrants that came here for the American dream and they worked the fields and because of them I was born here in CA, so just to go back into history the Indians All Across The Americas are mixed now with Spanish thanks to Christopher Columbus and the Spanish peoples that came here along with others. The Indians didn’t invite them to come to the Americas and invade them, so in that case if u remember CA was part of Mexico at some point and it was sold to the US for gold. It’s really bathling to me that Caucasians and African Americans, mind u I’m not calling them blacks anymore because I don’t want to sound offensive, are claiming this land theirs because they came to invade the Native Americans here. Actually the true owners here are the Native Americans. The immigrants do not qualify to get nothing here in the US. They pay taxes and the worst thing of all they don’t qualify to get tax returns or other services. The immigrants take up the odd jobs that the Caucasians and African Americans seldomly do. I believe that yes, we deserve credit. I’m tired of the sharade. This suppose to be the land of the free. What I only said in my previous message was the truth.
latinorebels fido55 oh. Well I’m very sorry if I said something offensive. I tried very hard.
gigi34 First of all, many Hispanic cultures helped build this country. Their history should be respected. But they should use examples from their own history to build their arguments instead of using African American history to support themselves. They should not take credit where credit is not due.
Second, the majority of “Mexicans” and Hispanics dating far back are mixed with the Spanish. Last time I checked Spain was in Europe. This means many “Mexicans” have European ancestry. Even though Mexican immigrants and Native Americans share similar ancestory, it does not make them the same. We can debate about history all day long but in the end the point is that it should not be used to support breaking the law.
Third calling people names and belittling them: “idiots”, “morons”, etc, is rude. Also, i find your comment “blacks got here as slaves on boats from Africa, why are you trying to get all the credit” very offensive. It seems as if you disrespect African Americans and consider yourself to be better than them by throwing this comment out there and then denying the credit that is due them. It seems as if you think hispanic contributions are superior to both European American and African American contributions. I am not tryin to attack you by saying this. You have proven the original point by making this statement.
Finally, there is nothing wrong with picking fruit. I dont know why you would belittle people working in this occupation. In America, you work hard for your money. If you want something better, then work for it. Get an education if you can and/or apply for better jobs just like every other American. If some one is here illegally, then they should consider themselves blessed to make a living picking fruit. Demanding a better job just because some one else has a better job is arrogant. I think the heart of this issue is greed. If you dont have citizenship then save up to buy it. Plus, many people who come here illegally do end up having great jobs and so do their children. No one is trying to stop them. This issue is about securing the borders so our system is not over run. That’s it.
I never meant to offend. I am very sorry if you were offended by anything that I said.
You should be proud of being Latina, just like I should be proud of being Caucasian. We should both be proud to live in America where we can have these conversations
WalterSmith1 and Fido55, you guys are a bunch of idiots, maybe you need to go back and read the history of the United States and Mexico, this is Mexican and Native American land before any blacks, whites Europeans got here, the blacks got here as slaves on boats from Africa, why are you trying to get all the credit, the hispanics helped build this country, they were here before all of you. Whites or blacks want white collar jobs, they dont want the dirty work of picking fruit and washing dishes, so I suggest for both of you to go back to the library and read about the history in this country because the whites came here and took the Indians land, blacks are also foreigners in tis country. I’m latina and proud of it, ignorant morons.
fido55 if you have to ask, you will never understand
WalterSmith1 I was just talking about this today. Everyone tries to use African American history to promote their own agenda when its %100 unrelated. Its very disrespectful. They usually know nothing about African American history or culture either. This just further shows a lack of knowledge and respect regarding American history in general.
If anyone had a worthy fight to fight in this country it was African Americans. They DID build and are soley responsible for our complete freedom.
There was an older African American man at the Murrieta protest. The same place Rivera was spit on. Hes a veteran. There was a huge group of hispanics saying they wanted to “take over this country and start a revolution”. This veteran was angry. He was shouting back: “if you don’t like this country then get out. If you want to change it then get the F*** back to where you came from. We went through the fire with these white guys and we’re brothers now. We all fought for this country, who the H*** are you.” He was up in their faces. No wonder because on top of everything, this same group of hispanics burned an American flag on the 4th of July. Are you kidding me? This man literally fought for our country and had to watch our flag burning on Independence Day. There were also hispanic veterans present and they were upset as well.
It’s funny no matter the conversation, blacks seems to come up.Blacks built this country, now every other race wants to come over and recite the 13th,14th, and 15th amendment which we solely fought to get.Then have the audacity to disrespect blacks.this outrages me and makes me wanna cheers for the whites in California.
With all due respect, Mr. Smith, thats exactly what the white power structure wants you to believe. Divide and conquer among people of color. Yes, there is anti-Blackness in the Latino community just like there os anti-Latinoness in the Black community. Your comment is a sad example of that anti-Latinoness. Imagine if people of color in this country put aside their egos and realize that unity that could come. Latinos have deep African roots as well. Look at Brazil, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Mexico, and other countries. We are not the enemy. Peace.
latinorebels fido55 ok. what does racially code mean? Sorry I don’t understand? :/
fido55 This is one of the most racially code comments ever. Don’t believe the hype.
No one should be spitting on anyone. That is so outrageous. That guy is a fool. I hope he was arrested.
But I would like to add to Mr. Rivera’s statements.
No one is doubting that hispanic cultures have helped build this country. African American, Asian and Caucasians have also built this country as well and continue to build it. It seems like some are trying to convince America that they are valuable to our country, but you already are. It seems like some angry individuals may have low self-esteem. Attacking other races and harping on the negatives of the past are not productive and just make those other races and people groups annoyed by you. It also seems like some people are not aware of our history. Illegal immigrants often have no clue about our actual history which could be the cause of these issues. It seems as if some believe lies and lack respect for Europeans especially. It seems as if some are failing to realize that all cultures and people groups in our history have had negatives as well as positives. It seems like some are very angry at Americans, but aren’t you Americans too if you are here? Aren’t we supposed to be united? Why would people want to be a part of this country if they hate it and know nothing about what made it great? Its very confusing. This kind of talk that I am reading is very frightening. It seems as if some do not want to be Americans, but rather, they want America to become something that serves them. Instead of posessing humility and seeking to serve society, it seems as if some do not want to change, grow, or contribute, but rather, want society to serve them. Most Americans, especially most caucasians, are very supportive of immigrants! They simply want the law to be followed. It is as simple as that. For safety reasons! For national security. The hate and anger I see in some of these posts should not be. I am caucasian. My ancestors stem very far back. I had family fight in the Civil War. One of my ancestors was Seargent York. My ancestors came here for religious freedom. They helped to free the slaves by participating in the underground railroad. Some of my other ancestors came later. At Ellis Island. They came “legally”. They jumped through all the right hoops and were proud to be Americans. They worked in foctories and lived poorly. As a caucasian, I welcome other cultures! I have several Korean friends that are not able to be citizens and they are hurt by illegal immigration. This saddens me. Please, please: if you are here illegally or know some one that is, please know that Americans care. Do not be filled with hate by the people in your own race that are already here. Seek the truth. We want you here, we just want the law to be followed. We want you to be Americans! So we can keep this country great for everyone. Please read up on the great things about our history. Immerse yourselves in our cultures and sense of patriotism. Be American! Then you can better our society with your own culture! If you do not love America, but you seek to live here and benefit from everything this country has to offer, then we will fail as a nation. The very title of this board, “latino rebel” is very frightening. It sounds like a civil war is desired by the writer. Please find it in your heart to humble yourself and aquire a sense of respect and love for other races and cultures that have been here a long time. Get out and meet new people. Do not believe in politicians and their promises or basically anything they say lol. Research the opposing side with an open mind. Do not lump all people of the same race into one group. We are brothers and sisters, there is not as much to rebel against as you might think. Socioeconomic status plays a lot more into things than you might think. Consider this, not just what a person looks like on the outside. First and formost , SEEK GOD. It is what many (not all) of our ancestors did and the reason our country became great. Peace.
Okay, see, that’s jacked up. Spitting on this dude is messed up. That guy should be arrested for assault.