There is no such thing as a White Latino.
I am a light-skinned Latino. I am not white. Whiteness isn’t just based on skin color. It’s a mindset. A thought process based on the superiority within American and Western European societies. Whiteness is not welcoming to people like me despite my looks. My last name doesn’t allow me all of the privileges White America enjoys. My appearance, however, can sometimes prevent me from being profiled by police, that is, until they run my plates and/or see my name.
I’m not here to argue that light-skinned Latinos don’t benefit from white privilege. We do more times than not as we traverse our everyday lives, but it ends there. That so-called privilege we are thought to benefit from rears its ugly head when we try to buy a car, get a mortgage, apply for a job, or interact with police. We all know what it’s like once white bosses see our names. In fact, it has been discussed at great length and some have even whitewashed their names on resumes and applications to prove that they weren’t given a chance because of their Latinidad.
This was partly represented in a poll released in 2017 conducted for National Public Radio (NPR), the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The poll showed one-third of Latinos reported being discriminated against in the workplace, seeking employment, and when seeking housing.
“In the context of institutional forms of discrimination, more than three in ten Latinos report having personally experienced discrimination because they are Latino when it comes to applying for jobs (33%), being paid equally or considered for promotion (32%), or when trying to rent a room or apartment or buy a house (31%).” It was based on “a nationally representative, probability-based telephone (cell and landline) sample of 3,453 adults age 18 or older.”
The study is quite telling. It does not, however, cover every aspect of discrimination we face on a daily basis. Speaking Spanish in public, interacting with White America, oppressive policing in our barrios, the systemic issues related to paying higher interest rates on loans, paying larger down payments, and being redlined from living in certain areas. If we denounce our Latinidad and speak in code as White America does, certain Latinos are led to believe they enjoy other privileges, but again, they’re limited.
Whiteness fears the browning of society and we’re ALL part of that fear.
Then there are those mediocre Latinos who embrace whiteness in America as if taking sides with the oppressors will somehow grant them immunity from the racism that permeates society in the United States. They eventually find out that nothing could be further from the truth.
Embracing and Abandoning Your Latinidad
If you’re like me and embrace your Latinidad, you’re subjected to many different forms of discrimination. If you abandon your heritage and embrace whiteness, racists will treat you like a friend as they mock you behind your back. Hate groups might welcome you as one of their own but once they manage to maintain their superiority over all of us, you suddenly become a target.
For racists and white nationalists in America, your last name is enough to doom you to their hateful beliefs. Many of these willfully ignorant haters refer to all of us Mexicans and think we speak Mexican (not Spanish). They categorize us into the one group that most Americans will demonize in the same way Trump does. They treat you as if you’re stealing their jobs and their women, devaluing their neighborhoods and bringing crime, drugs, and murder.
If it feels like they use some of the same tropes that they use against Black folks, that’s because they do. In fact, they use many of the same comparisons to justify their xenophobia. There are subtle differences because of the perceived negative impacts they think we bring to American society. But looking past those subtle differences, the basis for their hate is one and the same.
They hate us all.
Since the coronavirus outbreak, we’ve seen how rhetorical generalizations about the Chinese have been responsible for a rise in hate crimes against Asians. It’s largely because referring to COVID as the “China virus” has led hate groups to attack Asians because they’ve been lumped together as a single group—much like we are when we’re all referred to as Mexicans.
America’s history of generalizing Black folks as animals, thugs, murderers, drug dealers, and welfare queens with fatherless children should be a lesson in how white supremacy treats and associates minorities no matter where our families are from. The exact same tactics have been used by white nationalists all over America for more than a century and they’re using them right now by employing the power of social media to amplify their hateful generalizations.
The recent actions of white supremacists over the last decades have led us to where we are today with a much bolder, angrier, and more heavily armed neo-Nazi. These so-called militias are nothing more than white gangs of thugs terrorizing every non-white person in every city in the United States. Emboldened by a president who promotes their hate and celebrates their actions, they now believe that showing up to our neighborhoods and murdering us is justified.
If you’re one of those Latinos who takes sides with the hate America breeds, you are complicit in normalizing the oppression, murder, and cultural genocide of your own people. If you find yourself taking sides with white supremacists, I hope this piece shines a light on what you are doing so you can stop being so fucking mediocre. Because when they come for you, we may or may not be there. If we do come to your aid, we’ll be telling you we told you so and laughing at you at family functions until the day you die.
That’s what we do. We clown each other until death.
Stop Being Mediocre
You’re probably wondering what I mean when I say mediocre. Well, if you find yourself taking sides with the oppressive nature of whiteness in America, then you aren’t entitled to espouse racist views AND call yourself Latino. If you voted for that racist in the White House, you may as well stop calling yourself Latino too. Taking sides with an anti-Latino bigot disqualifies you from ever claiming to be one of us. Thinking that these people adore any of us is not just naive, but willfully ignorant and downright stupid. THAT is what makes you mediocre.
Mediocre Latinos who act like they're White espousing anti-Black and anti-Latino sentiments do more harm within the Latino community than any white supremacist ever could due to their proximity to other Latinos. Light-skinned Latinos aren't White. They are wannabes. Fight me. ??
— Arturo Dominguez (@ExtremeArturo) September 2, 2020
If you’re a light-skinned Latino like me, and the mentality of white supremacy circulates in your feeble mind, just refer to yourself as white. Because unlike me, you live your life with that whiteness mindset that I mentioned at the beginning of this article. You and I are not the same. I refuse and denounce that same whiteness that led to the wholesale slaughter of our people and the colonization of our lands. Latinos who side with colonialists are traitors to our respective cultures now just as you would have been when our ancestors were nearly erased from history.
If you take sides with white supremacists in the modern era, that leads me to believe you would have taken sides with the Europeans who stole our culture and heritage. I’m left to believe that you would have been the traitors that all but ensured the massacre of entire colonies for your own self-preservation. I mean, that’s why you do it now, isn’t it? Of course, it is. We see all of you.
None of us who celebrate our culture and heritage have any reason to believe that your motivations are any different. We see you regurgitating the same anti-Black sentiments that white supremacists promote. We see you ignoring our African and Indigenous roots as if your perceived whiteness makes you superior to the rest of us. My family, who is more than half Black, sees you. You don’t scare us but you do disgust every one of us for supporting the racism that has infected the United States since the very beginning.
I see you as the type of people who would have joined the Texas Rangers as they butchered Mexicans because of some false promise they granted you. I see you as taking sides with Spanish conquistadors allowing them to pillage the wealth of Indigenous tribes throughout the Caribbean and Latin America as they raped women and girls while slaughtering men and boys.
What makes you so different than what I just mentioned? Nothing. We are Latino and no matter how light-skinned you are, you aren’t white. Do your ancestors a favor and drop this white supremacist mentality. Drop the “White Latino” bullshit. Because although you think, act, and oppress like the problematic colonialist mindset that many white Americans live their lives by, you will never be white. And if you do think and act like them, it’s only a matter of time before they turn on you too. That’s the nature of the war waged against us. Again, they hate us all.
You are not white and “White Latinos” don’t exist. You can stop it or you can be a sellout for the rest of your life. I don’t really care as long as you know your place isn’t among us. Your place is with those who hate you just as you hate your own people and ancestors. Which can only mean one thing: there’s a lot of self-hate among you wannabe “White” Latinos.
The hate you breed for your own culture, heritage, and belonging is the real shame in all of this.
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Arturo is an anti-racist political nerd. He is an upcoming author, journalist, advocate for social justice, and a married father of three. He is a top writer in racism on Medium and a regular contributor to Latino Rebels. If you’d like to learn more about the issues covered here, follow him on Twitter.
stealing their women? lol
because as usual women are seen as objects… every generation a new group of immigrant men come to the united states and perpetuate their HORRIBLE SEXISM.
and basically they complain because they are not allowed to be white pigs.
then, women and Black Americans have to fight AGAIN for our right to be seen as equal as the latest crop of immigration has brought us a bunch of men who think they deserve something.
No, you’re an immigrant. You don’t get to participate in the same way as Americans. Get over it. The same is true when an American moves to another country. You don’t show up in a new country and get everything handed to you.
Maybe if you stopped watching TV.
Did you even read what he said? He said these are what white supremacists believe about immigrants. I don’t know if you’re latino yourself but you sound a lot like those same racists that hate you for just existing
I’m a white Latino ,my mom came from Spain as Spaniard are white European and you make all of us think that Spaniards are not,you are the racist
This is so sad yes latinos are mostly white so I don’t see why they would not identify as white. Stop believing you are a victim and set yourself your own path. You are mostly European embrace it. Your last name is white f you are Perez or Gonzalez or Navarra. Stop feeling less than you put yourself in this victim category don’t try to bring the rest of all Hispanics into your anti white retoric. You are white Southern European. Get that through your head. Stop hating your white ethnicity.
Personally, I don’t think that’s it. I think that what Arturo was looking to express is that there’s a difference between being a White Hispanic and embrassing that, and being a White american. That’s my interpretation
I wonder if Arturo bothered to read about the history of race in Latin America before being all up in his feelings and posting with his white latino tears. White latinxs exist, just like Black latinxs exist. Latinidad is not a race. I suggest Arturo thinks about what he would be called if he went to Latin America. He would be called blanco because that’s what he is. Being in the US doesn’t change that. Being discriminated against based on xenophobia doesn’t change that. Race is a messed up concept that isn’t based on science. It is merely based on looks and is a social construct. So if you look white, you are white. That doesn’t make you any less Latinx, because again, the two things are separate. Claiming white latinxs don’t exist is really messed up and you just end up minimizing the differential experiences among racial groups within Latin America and the diasora.
I’m Puerto Rican and that is how I identify myself. Race and Color are too divisive so in that sense I am counter culture .
I want to be sensitive and respectful to your deeply held belief and sense of white identity. As well as your life experience. And agree that for anyone to say that “White” Hispanics don’t exist is wrong. No one has the right to label other arbitrary. (I know they do it all the time). I don’t hear anyone saying that “Black” Hispanics don’t exist. And if these Latinos do say they are not Black then many say that they are trying to deny their race and are ashamed, right.
But “White” is not just about a “look” or a “color” And yes, it “colors” your life experience from socially with some advantages to disadvantages. But here is the thing a “White” Identity” entails commitment to certain cultural values and ideological believes, it is racially loaded.
There was a time when not everyone with a white look or white skin color and from Europe was considered “White”. In the United States in order to be “white” you had to be anti-black, (e.g. see book: How the Irish Became White), accept being superior to people of color who are considered inferior and valued less. And I can say a lot more but…I hope this helps and not ignite more stuff.
hello! i just have a question i wanted to know if i have blue eyes, light brown hair, and white skin and i am fully latina born in panama raised in panama my first language is spanish both my parents and most of my family is latino what am i?
You are what you identify yourself as.
most people replying in these comment don’t know a single thing about what took place in mexico. to keep it simple race is a lie. and blacks are the original mexicans. if you look white your a European. if you dont look white but dont look black either your a mixed race aka raperace. you all still have a piece of the colonizers mind. break free, peace
Completely wrong the Mexica are the original mexican why do u think it’s called Mexico and the original Mexica where not black
This is so fucking stupid
When you have nothing of value to bring to the conversation you should remain silent.
Don’t preach it. Follow it as well
100% – absolutely retarded. What a waste of time.
Yes, very. Incredibly stupid.
The writer clearly has a big, flipping chip on his little, brown shoulder. LOL
I’m Latin heritage and always get assumed to be white. I am both Spanish and white. I’m married to a white guy.
As a Latina and an immigrant to this country, I agree that this is one of the most ill informed and ignorant things I’ve ever read. This is a real problem that even highly educated Latinos have.
Race, nationality and ETHNICITY (Latino for example) are all separate, yet important in identifying with your background. Ignorance like this is so dangerous, it’s mainly what leads to misinformation which propagates animosity and inequality. It’s shameful to the Latin American community and it only hurts us all. Very sad.
Actually, the person who is retarded is you. The reason you guys think that you are “white” with no European blood except 8 generations back when the Spaniards and Portuguese were out raping is because it’s easier to assimilate than to fight. I am actually white because one of my parents is white, not because of my skin colour. It’s sad that you believe skin and hair colour, not GENETICS are what make you the race and ethnicity you are. I’ve seen light skin latinos with blonde hair and blue eyes- they’re features aren’t White at all because they’re not of European descent; those traits have nothing to do with being white, that’s the illusion you choose to believe. Just remember, Latinos don’t even have a Disney princess- you guys are further down the totem pole than you know. Smh.
Wow! Can I have your autograph? You’re so important and genetically excellent!
I don’t even consider myself white, but European migration to Latin America happened until the 50’s. There are a lot of Latinos with European parents and grandparents. So they aren’t white just because their ancestor chose to migrate to Latin America instead of the US?
Most of my friends have 100% European ancestry, and we all live in South America, so they can’t be considered white because they speak Spanish?
Actually I’m second generation born us American, my grandparents from both sides were from Europe, so I’m. Caucasian I got skin originally few descend from south Europe the south European are beige or olive skin, people from south Europe been with white skin descend from Germans, Ukraine, Poland, Russia, Yugoslavia etc, specially from Germany, Poland, and Ukraine, and Yugoslavia with Albania before, but the original south European were olive or beige skin, because the weather was and is warm fir over 10k thousand years.
So I’m Caucasian and born us citizen, and new Yorker for over 30 years I was from another place of USA when I was 15 all the way down , but when you have more than 2 years in a state you are from that state and more if you got there when you were a minor.
Regardless even if both of my grandparents were not Europeans but still look Caucasian, I still Caucasian why? Because 1 because the looks is what the people determine your race it has been for over 100s of years, and people by then were all mix genetically but people were judge by the looks, and do you think it changes the DNA test? That’s ivery funny, have you seen a cop stopping you and asking your DNA test? Have you seen a judge in court asking your DNA test before judge you? Of course not.
You are what you look like Regardless of your genes, as has been for centuries.
And if you got the look by common sense also, because you got the genes that made the look of Caucasian or black, whatever. Facts.
Cool it Hitler
> I’ve seen light skin latinos with blonde hair and blue eyes- they’re features aren’t White at all because they’re not of European descent;
Lol. There are no brown people with blonde hair and blue eyes unless they dyed their hair and wear contacts. Those are White features. For a person to have those traits naturally means they have a majority of European ancestry.
Don’t talk of genetics when you can’t even acknowledge that simple fact.
I read the article and I sympathize with anyone who is discriminated against. There is one fact you as the author might want to consider though that this article doesn’t in my experiences and that is that discrimination does not only go one way.
Whenever I apply for a job at a Brown HIspanic-owned business in my State(that has large latino population), I automatically get disqualified for employment because of one requirement over and over, and that is that I am not considered ‘culturally bilingual’. Although I am a White Anglo American- I have taken spanish classes all throughout highschool and speak spanish well enough with other spanish speakers, but even though I demonstrate that to hispanic employers – they are reluctant to say what I am missing. They just brush me off. It becomes more obvious that the label ‘culturally bilingual’ is a signal that they are looking for other Hispanics while they also try to save face.
I have looked online to see if other non-Hispanics in America have experienced this and there are people who have. Some White Americans, and many Black Americans will say they have.
In consideration of those experiences, this article seems to demonstrate a blindspot and evokes a tone and image that doesn’t seem conducive to solving discrimination, instead it would seem to bolster racism since it inflames resentment from any Hispanics reading and any Non-HIspanics reading.
I hope the author in the future will come to understand that resentment and bitterness never solve much, and only builds up walls in the end. If you want to fight guys like Trump, you might consider finding ways to build bridges for people instead. My 2 cents.
hahahaha what??? if your skin color is white then YOU ARE WHITEEEE. you are probably black, thats why you are trying anyone else that is not white american to believe that theyre brown or black hahahah no my fellow black thats not how it works. some latinos can get to 70 porcent european and look full spaniard italian even french and their skin is white so theyre white. go cry me a river now
Just for your information, in Northern Europe, white Americans are not pure white, a race study showed, that white Americans are a mix of different races, including such as Jewish, black, latino and asian, don’t believe me? look it up, I used to date a German girl, from actually Germany and she said that white Americans were not really white, and that they were mixed.
> Just remember, Latinos don’t even have a Disney princess- you guys are further down the totem pole than you know
Can’t you at least get ONE basic fact straight?
There’s been a Latina Disney Princess since 2016. From a 2016 article: “This year, Disney premiered its first Latina princess: Elena Castillo Flores, better known as Elena of Avalor.” (You can google this) So, yeah, we do have a Latina Disney princess! No clue where you have been the past 5 years but pretty much everybody else knows about this… thanks for your concern about cartoon princesses though 🙂
“I refuse and denounce that same whiteness that led to the wholesale slaughter of our people and the colonization of our lands.” It is great to see such passionate identification with indigeneity from a self identifed light skinned Latino. Maybe I missed it, but where is the acknowledgment of the violence of author’s white ancestors? Author also identifes as Black. But I find it objetionable and convenient to only own part of one’s ancestry. We are the sum total of all of it, including the parts we don’t want and are ashamed of. My apologies if I am being unfairly critical. I liked the article. I wouldn’t leave this comment if I didn’t.
(((Arturo Dominguez))) must have triple citizenship-the Latin American nation he or his parents were born in, the US, and Israel. This kind of postmodernist, Frankfurt School, critical race theory mumbo jumbo can only reveal his true ethnic origin.
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I don’t understand how you can spout this rhetoric as if Telemundo and Univision isn’t all white Latinxs? They are not light skinned they are literally white people who were born and grew up in Latin America. There are definitely brown/light skinned Latinxs who are colonized in their mindset in which makes them “white” in a way but they are still brown just racist and white supremacist which is a whole other topic and issue to discuss and unpack. But we have to stop saying that there’s no such thing as white Latinxs when they are everywhere. This idea that we’re all just one race “Latinx” is dangerous and wrong. The experiences are different amongst Latinos who are visibly indigenous or black and more often than not, it’s white Latinos who are perpetuating violence and racism towards bipoc latinx’s.
I totally agree with you that the idea that we are one race is dangerous and wrong but for a different reason. And that is that both scientific a Biblical truth agree that there is no such thing as race or less races.
This idea, especially since it was invented, has been used by people in power to place themselves above others, enslave, commit genocide and more. All on the false basis that white is right, beautiful and deserving. And that black and everything in between is wrong, ugly and undeserving.
Since I am sure you know race and its next of kin identity are social constructions. We can call ourselves whatever we want’ white if we look it. If fact in the United States white people are black if they have one drop of black blood. And in Latin America people who are seen as white are seen as people of color in the United States.
So, what do we do with people who just see themselves as “white.” Or consider themselves to be white and claim to be the rightful inheritors of all of the benefits and privileges bestowed upon whiteness? There are those who would benefit from having Latinx in US and Latin America divided over this and at each other’s throats. The one thing that is clear is that we are one people, from white to black and all of us in between. From different countries. Treated differently but one people. The health and future of this people is at hand but we have the God given capacity to succeed and overcome this. But first we have to stop denigrating ourselves and respect the diversity in which the Almighty has created us in.
Here in Latin America we are fighting racism but sadly your rhetoric is the reason why white latinos got away with racism. They do exist here in Latin America and they look like white Americans. This may be a shock to you but they are usually the rich people in Latin Ameriica. They usually travel outside to US, Europe and come back to Latin America. They married into European Monarchy(Holland) like Queen Maxima who is from Argentine. Most of them hold double nationality(European country and Latin America country). Many of them are more racists that white Americans. How you seen the maids’s room in Latin America? They make work long hours and many times they are treated terrible. Look at the white rich Brazilian President Bolsonaro that is racist. He is also Trump friend. They do not care what people like you think about them because they only mixed with other rich people. Like Brazilian Giselle Bunchen some of them do not have Spanish or Portuguese last name. Sadly if you do not look like them or have the correct last name you are not going to get far in Latin America unless they need you. That is a reality that many of us want to change because it has damage Latin America. But we cannot change what we do not want to see. So open you eyes. Listen to the song Bailes de los que Sobran.
Most people here look just like Maxima lol. She’s not even that “white” (with “white” I mean light eyes and blonde hair). It’s true that wealthy people tend to be whiter, but most white people aren’t rich at all. And having double citizenship is really easy. Hundreds of thousands of people have them in Argentina, with just one relative you are eligible. And that’s not hard at all considering that about 70% of all Argentines have at least one Italian ancestor in their family (about 30 million out of the 45 million)
Anyway, your comment is a little bit misleading. Though you are right in some things. Racism is a big thing in Latin America, American “Latinos” really have no idea what Latin America actually is like.
Question to the author or anyone else who agrees with him:
What is Anya Taylor-joy then?
Isn’t she white? I mean, she looks white af if you ask me. But she’s 100% Latina. Her name doesn’t even sound Hispanic.
But still she isn’t white?
Anya Taylor-Joy is white, even if she has latin american and african (I think I saw something about this) heritage. Latin americans are not a race, I don’t think americans realise that. It’s an ethnicity, it simply means that we are from a part of the world that was vastly colonized by Spain and Portugal (mainly). I’m brazilian (I speak portuguese by the way, a few americans think we all speak spanish), and I am definitely white, even if more than half of Brazil’s popuation is balck, even if I have a few relatives that are black and even if my hair is curly. Even with black heritage, there are some things white latinos do not do because it would be cultural appropriation, and there are some things we do and have, simply because they are widespread in our culture , due to colonization and our indigenous background/culture. White latinos are not trying to erase our black heritage, we all have it, but it doesn’t mean we suffer from the same prejudice latinos of color do, we are extremely privilged. No one considers me black, americans are the one complicating it in my opinion. Some people want to put all latinos in this little box, and that is simply impossible.
Not all white latinos are rich wtf. Most of us are just middle class or even lower. Sorry to break it to you but racial inequality isn’t THAT bad here. Y’all are so quick to assume hispanics and latinos are a race who looks a certain way (indigenous), when it’s not. Saying that erases so many people’s racial identities wtf.
You are the biggest idiot yet. How dare you try to drop me into a category that your tiny little mind has created. If you know anything, Latino and Hispanic are words created to justify a group that encompasses all people who speak Spanish. These are made up words by those that were far from proud from being their heritage. I am a WHITE CUBAN WOMAN!!! Get it moron. My color is white, my heritage is Cuban. For you to say that I don’t exists or that I am somewhat challenged by others just goes and shows your total ignorance.
I agree with you 100%. I’m another white cuban woman
Pathetic, Do you believe americans consider u white? or do you think you are white cuz u r in welfare like many in little havana (a privilege that most of the latinos don’t have)
Colombian here, actually BLACK colombian.
Jorge cancel… What makes your think white people in Latin America care about what white americans consider white or not?
The upper clases of Latin America, most of them white, follow the European train of thought and identity. They don’t give a shit about americans and their opinions.
It’s like people telling me I’m not black because blacks in America don’t consider me white, fuck black Americans and their opiniob for all I care.
I know who I am. White Latin amwricans have all the right to identity with their ancestry regardless of what some dumb white fuck from the US thinks.
I’m 100% white American. I’m the colonizers thatbyall hate. Full blooded. I definitely acknowledge white Latinos both full blooded and mostly gentically European as no less white than I am but also a different flavor of “white” because that’s what they are.
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You are an ignorant imbecile!!!
You are part black too, dont you know? Cuba was colonized (brutally) by the Spanish. The Moors were in Spain for about 800 years. About 711 to 1492. The Moors were AFRICAN BERBER Muslims. It doesn’t matter what color your skin is. You have African blood and DNA pumping through your blood. So light hair and light eyes became dark hair and dark eyes. I know Reublicans have trouble with science, but that’s science…and history. And by the way I am Cuban too!
Remy: North africans aren’t black. Travel to Morocco or Algeria and you’ll see what I mean. Also most spaniards don’t have light eyes/hair. Like Italians, they are mediteranean and fairly tanned.
So out of touch. No empirical evidence to support the hypothesis. Latinos come in al races, ethnicities and color – Plenty of social/racial issues in Latin American countries. The author’s view is simplistic, unsophisticated and makes for a fun Saturday night over cocktails posit but it’s Mumbai jumbo with little, if any, social value.
Jacqui, Latino/@/x(s) is mythical why buy into that colonizers nomenclature. That is empirical
Funny that you would describe yourself with the xenophobic term “Latino” while deriding xenophobia and racism.
I believe the Spanish term for that is “¡COME MIERDA!”
Latino/a is NOT a xenophobic term. The central and the southern part of the american continent are called Latin America just because the main languages are spanish and portuguese, which are (like italian, french and romanian) latin languages. So, people from Latin America are called latinos only to distinguish them from Europeans who speak latin languages.
Latino or latina is a faster and more practical term instead of “people that come from Central/South America” or “people with central/southern american heritage”, don’t you think? And you can’t call Latinos Spaniard or Portuguese or whatever, because they aren’t (regardless of their skin colour).
Just because some people with under-developed brain use “latino” as a racial slur, doesn’t mean that is racist or xenophobic word itself.
Oh, and I’ll never use “latinx”, it’s as woketard as this article. F**k politics, f**k SJWs and f**k society, lol.
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Hard to tell which stupidity to address. It’s an overload of complejismo and tercer-mundismo. Ashamed to share his name
Have you ever though to educate yourself? We trying to help you and you are taking it badly. I think you have two issues that you have to work on yourself:
1.You should be honest about yourself. A white latino look like Thalia, Ana de Armas or Bolsonaro but not like you. Some counseling could be useful.
2.You should learn more about what is going in Latin America. What is going in the US is nothing compare to Latin America. You have it easy but you do not see it. Like we say in Latin America: No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver.
Comment was not for you but the writer. I hope they do np make the mistake to put it under your name.
Según este resentido, si no estás de acuerdo con las estupideces que él propone no eres latino.
THERE ARE WHITE LATINOS.
There are light-skinned non-white Latinos too but there ARE DEFINITELY White Latinos.
Hi Arturo, I agree wholeheartedly but there’s more to it. The albinos(OCA1-9) who invaded this country some 500 years ago did so wanting a country strictly for themselves. After slaughtering the black tribes( original man= black, original man in the new World = black) they soon realized they couldn’t till the land( high cancer rate for albinos, weak bones=osteoporosis ) so they needed the black man to grow food and cash crops in order to eat and pay the bankers who lent them money for the voyages to the New World. So slavery was developed to fill that void, after the civil war they needed some kind of immigration , indentured servants, Mexican laborers, Chinese laborers, etc. With the narcissistic love that Albinos have for themselves due to their coloring and features, they have managed to instill a self hatred into Blacks and Latinos and Mongols worldwide( Chinese, Philipinos, Indonesians, Japanese,etc) who now want to look like them. More on the Mongols later. Back to Blacks and Latinos, Albinos because of their afflictions, light eyes( early cataracts), non melanated skin causing cancer, poor or lack of absorption of Vitamin D causing rickets they need to mate with melanated people to produce stronger offspring. This is happening all over Latin American lightening people. These people who are a mixed people now want to call themselves white but Latinos as a group are a mixed people, yes, some latinos are albino, I know an Albina Latina who has to cover herself from head to foot due to fears of skin cancer. Latinos have to learn to love themselves and understand their superiority , our genetic makeup is vast due to all these mixtures while Albinos have a small genetic pool causing them more afflictions. Now back to the Mongols of Asia: because of past colonialism with the Opium wars in China by the Albinos of Great Britain and USA, Indonesia (Portuguese, Dutch), Korea (Japan), Japan (influenced by Portugal) and Burma (Great Britain) the Albinos have managed with their media, good looking actors, good makeup, good skin, good teeth all paid to Dentists and makeup people that to be white is the ideal. The consequences in Asia of this is that skin whitening creams having poisons in them such as mercury, etc is now a 23 BILLION dollar industry. People with businesses are discriminating against darker skin people thereby instilling self loathing and consumers of these dangerous products. Asian people don’t just lather whitening creams onto their faces anymore; they also pop melanin reduction pills and shoot up whitening agents as if it were heroin. THIS SELF HATRED MUST STOP OR WE’LL DESTROY OURSELVES MENTALLY OR WITH DRUGS.
I think you don’t understand what albinos are….actually I think there’s loads of things you don’t understand!!!
“If you don’t understand white supremacy, what it is, and how it works, everything else that you understand will only confuse you.” –Neely Fuller Jr. “The United Independent Compensatory Code System Concept”
Albinos? Lol, albinism is a genetic disorder.
Albinos?
Ruiz? I wonder how euro you are
I don’t like to identify as white but Euro
You 2nd and third world countries in Latin America are garbage full of corrupt governments
Which ironic enough is ran by euros
Or even middle easterners
You use that label to divide because you
Want victimhood stats
And it’s very pathetic
Mexico full of cartels
Latin America still poor or developing
And still blame ” the man”
This is why no one takes you seriously
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It is not possible to refer yourself to completely white if you are hispano in near relation(mother, father or even grandparents). If you are not a Nazi follower, like Hitler who was himself jew blooded. How can you refuse your dad, mom or grandparents in family relation just because you don’t want to be considered latino or hispano? I unexpectedly faced the other side of problem. Ok, I confess my veins are blue and purple. Neither royal person nor proud of my skin, just very fair complexion of my mom’s family, naturally blond nothern slavic with icy blue eyes. I’m a bit darker than my mom, but a bit lighter than my dad. I am not accepted well by cubans, because I’m “azul”. Not only cubans, I faced this problems even in Spain and Ucraine(they see me like Russian or white latina). My heart is bleeding and I hide myself and my photos because it is dangerous. I painted my hair black to be accepted better, It doesn’t work. I am sorry to say this is racism too. I am not royal “pavo real”. Of course my character is not so many passionate as pure hispanic people are, I am naturally colder than most Hispanos and even Ucrainians are. It is not my guilt, it is inherited. They are also Nazi followers as well as pure white americans are. The same level of discrimination, job refusal because “azul”. I wonder the new big world war between brown eyes and blue eyes.
Any2way, if you’ve traveled through the Caribbean and Americas’ (for lack of an indigenous name reference point) the first thing you notice is the names of place (e.g.Tulum) nothing Latin about the names as they reference original language of the indigenous peoples of the land.
Latino is a conjuration by the colonizers or as Fela Kuti aptly puts it “Government Magic”, which I believe is the point the author is attempting to make
For example how fugg’d up is the below:
“The Selk’nam Indians, also called the Ona, first arrived in Tierra del Fuego about 10,000 years ago.”
So these people arrive over 10k years ago to “Tierra del Fuego” lmao. I guess totally bereft of culture/traditions until some Latin/Spanish speaking colonizer could even name the lugar.
C’mon the term “Latino” is some colonized fecal matter. I am open to debate if someone can show me this is/was the original language of these peoples.
2nd of all most people identify with there culture and current Latin named space/geography (Argentinian,Cuban,Dominican) blah blah blah you get the Punto.
Now what is an interesting conversation is how do to decolonize this nomenclature. Holla at cha boy.
It’s so sad that none of y’all have even bothered to read the article. Yes, I disagree with a few things he said (most part I agree with), but c’mon if you’re going to sent hate to the author of this article. READ the article first, GEEZ.
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R2D2 Please stop being so obsessed about race.
We Argentines are majority white Latinos. So are the people from Uruguay. YOu can believe the concept or not.
Lol, many of the geogrsphical names in Argentina (using this name for reference) are actually of the indigenous peoples as all throughout the America’s the Spanish language is introduced through the colonizer aka purveyor of genocide of people and culture.
Why you continue to champion the label “Latino/x” is beyond moral comprehension( ok maybe a tad strong…)
Seriously Latino is only referenced by academics and politicians. Most people identify first by country of origin as the post I’m responding to…
Long Sigh…
Facking bitch talking shit about European you speaking European languages u have European name u look white u are white so don’t tell me it dasent exists white Latina argentina are white people they are European Cuba Uruguay Hispanic is not a race they are white European African mestizo indigenous Asian so stop telling me bull shit Hispanic people are not same people same race so half of Latin American are white European lorn history bitch European power I bet you are more than 75%European and talking shit about European fuck u
Maki, I agree with you, Hispanic people are not the same race. But the reason for that is because race or different races do not exist. And this is not just a scientific fact but also a Biblical truth. White identity like race is man-made (i.e., social constructions), labels that people in power place on themselves and then others with values and fictitious ideas about beauty and social worth. Racial identity is defined differently in the United States then in Latin America. And not every group of people (Irish, Italian, etc.) that came from Europe, for instance, who looks white and has white skin was considered white when they came to the United States. So, yes there are white Hispanics and yes you are white do not let anybody tell you different, shake you up or put you on the defensive be absolutely sure in your heart and in your mind. And set them right, ok.
You sound like a god damn moron, they need to cut your welfare check
She is stupid they are millions white Latinos Argentina is mostly white Uruguay Chile cuba they are European by blood why lots of white Latinos deny they are white Spaniard colonized Latin America and her last name is from Spain is white and Spanish language is European language
The guy who wrote this garbage should get his head out of his own ass and visit actual latin America which is where REAL LATIN AMERICANS LIVE.
That way he will understand that latin America has a racial hierarchy and that whites (Because yes there are plenty of them there), sit at the top.
Attitudes like the one from this STUPID IDENTITY CRISIS RIDDEN PSEUDO-CUBAN FROM THE USA is what perpetuate racism and the status quo in latin america.
INDIGENOUS AND BLACK MASSES OF LATIN AMERICA: We want equality.
WHITE ONES: Why? We are just latinos, we are all the same.
FUCK THE PIECE OF SHIT WHO WROTE THIS TRASH.
So to resume this ridiculous article. You have to comply with that the moron who wrote this is believes in order to be latino.
Being from Latin America is easy to see, this idiot is an American born, identity crisis ridden idiot.
This author is an idiot!
This text is ridiculous. You don’t know nothing about Latin America and their histories and nuances. You’re gringo ignorant who think know just because you have roots from there.
What a bullshit! You mean that every white Latino has to consider himself something else just “because white America wants”, do me a favor. Stop looking at the USA as the center of the world and go take a look at the Latin countries and see that there are people classified as white, they are seen and treated as such, they have passports from about 3 different European countries and they will not stop being who they are just because “White America thinks this or that “.
The Republican party has normalized canceling cultures, and manipulated the masses to act against each for voters leverage,while telling other non-whites to shame and completely delete their culture, every country has their bad and good people, make sure to always cut the habits and from cycling to the next generation and adopt other healthy habits from other cultures, and most of all be happy
El garrapata agarra cualquier pata! Cual pata agarras tu es evidente en esta serie de respuestas? Algunos necesitan vaselina!!
My mother is Mexican and my father is Dominican. I am 100% white passing and don’t have a Latin name. Therefore I identify as white and I don’t need nobody telling me what I am or am not.
Race and ethnicity are two completely separate things….you can be white and Latino; you can be black and Latino; you can be brown and Latino; you can be Asian and Latino. You are Latino by heritage and culture. Race is just a feature, like having green eyes or curvy hair or being 7 feet tall. Unfortunately, discrimination comes in all packages and involves race, ethnicity and everyting in between. PAZ ?
Mariana, L, I agree you do not have to surrender or betray your cultural ethnic identity because of the color of your skin. Race like ethnicity is a social category. The misunderstanding is that in the minds of most people you have got to be one or the other. So, let look at this. The main difference is that unlike ethnicity most people believe that race is real; that it has basis in nature. But this is not true; race is just another man-made social category but this time with no Scientific or Biblical factual basis to it. The variations that we see in each other, (i.e., physical characteristics) are not not indicators of different races but of human diversity. One, which I am sure you would agree with, is one of the most culturally divisive, destructive elements in our society. It makes us wants us to believe that the dark person (e.g., brown, black, etc.) next to you is not only of a different race but an inferior one: even though he is of same heritage. And that is at the heart of “white identity”. Think about it. The idea of race/races has historically been used to as a means of justifying and giving legitimacy to oppression, exploitation, dehumanization and now discrimination. How? And you know this, by placing negative social value on the physical characteristics (e.g., ugly, morally, and intellectually inferior) on some. And positive value (beautify, socially acceptable and superior) on the characteristics of the other. Then calling this a matter of difference race. If we want to protect and preserve the love and nobility of who and what we are then we have to be clear not naïve or innocent about what we are talking about here. What these social labels mean what they imply for us. Thank you, PAZ mi Hermana.
What about Latinos with European ancestors? Aren’t they allowed to celebrate their Latin and European roots just because one it’s the ‘opressor’? If you think Latinos only have Spanish last names, then you clearly don’t know us very well.
And course being white isn’t just a skin colour, but by today standards, a person with predominant European ancestry is considered ‘white’, and yes, Latinos with predominant white ancestry are minority, but they do exist and they are still Latinos.
Not being being allowed to celebrate one’s heritage and roots is oppressive and wrong. The people who object to you doing it, probably victims of white/European oppression, need to step back for a moment and reflect. We punish black Latinos by insisting and reminding them that they are black and have African roots. We do not object to their celebrating their African roots. Why? Because it serves to remind them, us, and the world how racially different they are from us, right. They are a social liability when it comes to us dealing with the white Americans and Europeans…that many of us want to identify with because of the social and economic benefits of being white bring to them.
Every time you call a person white, you deny them the opportunity to celebrate their heritage. No person is white. They are German, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Polish, etc.
Use your brain. Everyone has ancestors, and everyone’s group hates another group. Oh what, do you think the Germans in Italians still don’t look down on Italians? I get called Italian slurs all the time, but its “funny” because I’m “white”.
white Latinos do exist you latrino supremacists are racist ,antiwhite latrino supremacists
One of the weirdest things about being a white Cuban-American woman is constantly being told by others what I am and what I am not.
My grandparents suffered terrible discrimination when they came here. They forced their kids to exclusively speak English so they would not be denied privileges, and because some of them were close enough to white-passing. My mom is a Blanca, and I inherited my blue eyes and blonde hair from her. She was born in Cuba, yet she has been a “white woman” since she came here. Her parents faced discrimination, but she never did – not even close, she had doors open for her. And I sure as heck haven’t suffered discrimination! I don’t have a Spanish-sounding last name, and yet growing up my extended family traditions were Cuban, and I am proud of my heritage.
So all of *that* considered: what does that make me?
Personally, I feel I’d be lying and disrespecting those who truly suffer from racism to deny my very pronounced white-privilege. To say I’m “not white” feels like it would be deeply offensive to those who actually suffer under systemic racism, who deal with the day-to-day reality of discrimination. How could I say anything else? Again – I’m pale, blonde, and blue-eyed, and I have an Anglo-sounding last name. Everyone is shocked when they hear about my heritage. Who am I to claim that I’m not white? When I benefit from it everyday?
We’re all under the onus of doing the daily work to try to counter racism. But ignoring reality is not part of that work.
The Latins were white europeans from central Italy. Being “latino” very much makes you “white”.
This being said, those who speak Spanish or are descended from Spanish speaking people are not a single homogenous group in any way, let alone racially or ethnically. The Spanish colonizers forced millions of people to erase their identities in favor of hispanic culture.
Racial gatekeeping is not good for anyone. Recognizing that identity is complex and fluid is good for everyone.
What a fucking idiot. Most latinos are white as were their genocidal rapist ancestors from spain. Id happily fight arturo what a total moron. Learn history dumbshit.
In Belize and on the Guatemalan cost there were literally white British men , called boatmen landing and staying, having families with the natives. In Guatemala we have places like Livingston with mostly black people and places like Xela with blonde blue eyed people. I look like that. I certainly speak like a Latina and have an olive undertone in my skin but I can easily be seen as a white woman despite being Latina. We are very diverse. The bond I feel to other Latinos comes from culture and a sense of home. But what I certainly noticed since moving to the USA is that racism is worse often in Guatemala. One of the most common insults literally means“ don’t be an Indian“. Indigenous people are so often disadvantaged, often don’t speak Spanish and they keep to their own wich makes the problem worse and dress differently ( at least the women) and that closes many doors for them. And sadly this racism is mostly acceptable.
I feel close to people I like, that either share my values or challenge them in a good manner. I’m closer to a Christian conservative that’s Chinese than toa Latina that grew up in El Encinal like me and is a Marxist. Diversity of thought lacks sadly so often in Latino communities.
EI regret the racism or discrimination that you experienced while leaving Guatemala to the U.S.A. That is 1 of the incidents in the U.S.A. that I’m embarrassed about
The key of the problem is as simple as sad it is skintone(colored skin). I mean those people who are considered to be “blue”, “albina” and not accepted as hispanic in the Latin American countries because they seem to be too white compared with the ordinary Latin people. However, compared with very white American people and Northen European they are very similar to Jewish people, I mean the pale complexion white skin(even blue and purple veins), but compared with really white without Latin origin they are a half-tone darker and golden yellowish while the pure white Americans and Europeans are reddish and greyish colors. This is called Mediterranean race. Although the eyes and hair can be rather light. They look like ordinary people from Southern Europe, but not like people from Northern Europe or the US.
“Really white without latin” Gosh, sys, you have some issues there…
Latimo comes from LATIN. Romans WERE white, AND sourthen european. Frenchs, Spaniards, Italians, Portuguese, Romanians, ARE white and sourthen europeans.
Yeah…”REAL” white. As white as a Swedish .. just probably more tanned, and with highter percentage of dark eyes/hair color. Sun tends to do that on people…
What ‘muricans call “caucassian” is actually the white ethnicity and it’s divided into three main linguistical groups: Mediterranean/Latin, Nordic/Anglo-Germanic and Slavic/Eastern European.
There are not “Real” and “less real” white europeans. All of them are white ( even the most mixed-origin spaniards and italians have like 5-10% arab genes on their pools at the most).
Arabs ( and hebrews) are semitic people. “mediterranean” in the way you used it is a cultural, not an ethno-linguistical definition.
Yes, a Syrian and a Sourthen Greek might share the same tone of skin ( on both ways , there are also very pale greeks and syrians as well) and share many customs, but one’s ethnicity is semitic, and the other is indo-european or “white”
Having tanned skin does not make you any less white. Only racist anglo morons think that, they spreaded that nonsense in the XIX Century to difference thenselves for those “lesser, inferior” continental europeans they use to plunder on.
Seems they forgot the time when they were virtually animals and Romans told them about civilization…
Caucasian (or caucasoid or europoid) doesn’t mean being “white-skinned”: Arabs are caucasian too, not semitic. Syrians, Greeks, Armenians, Iranians, etc. ARE caucasian. Stop spreading ignorant lies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
Did you know Native Americans were black (or at least dark skinned)? The reason there are white people among latin americans is because most of The Americas got colonized by European nations like Spain and Portugal, which are essentially latin countries. Native Americans were forced to procreate with the white European enslavers and black African slaves brought to America by such enslavers. It’s similar to what happend with USA/Canada and their English colonization. There is no such thing as ‘American white’, pure Americans were black and the Latin Europeans who colonized us were the white ones. The use of the term ‘latino’ is really messed up nowadays.
what do you think of Latinos blacks when the thought comes and intellectual people a developed people no they are foolish the foolish no not their place they are mindless apes worth less than the dirt from on which they’ve come from, you can struggle but no matter how many of you ban together and Reith amongst the earth you are no match for the American Reich your countries are underdeveloped your culture is inferior no wonder why we seem more privileged to you the only way you will be able to be superior as us is if you change your culture or we will stay in control besides i highly doubt you spics will ever change your culture the only ones that have have either been raised by whites or have grew up in small town areas I would know I’m a combination of the both
Hello,
I was wondering if since my father is white and my mom is Mexican would that count me as a white latino in that sense? I read your article and I thought it was really interesting so I wanted to ask.
Mexican is a Nationality, not a race or an ethnicity. Your Mom being Mexican could be of any ethnicity/race and be Mexican if she’s from Mexico. So in closing you’re half of whatever your Mom is her Nationality notwithstanding.
I’m honestly confused. If there are no white Latinos, where does that leave Latinos of ~100% Spanish or other European heritage? Are they not Latino then, even if their family background comes from Latin America? If you’re saying it’s your physical appearance that leads to discrimination, then surely there are many Latinos of Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, or other heritages (there are even Latinos of English, Irish, and Welsh heritage, including many in Argentina and Bernardo O’Higgins in Mexican history) who are indistinguishable than non-Latino whites, and many even lighter-skinned than non-Latino white people of Mediterranean heritage like Italian, French, Greek, etc. Wouldn’t that If it’s simply a “mindset,” then does that mean people of Latino heritage who grow up speaking English in predominantly white American communities are not Latino? And what about people of mixed Latino and non-Latino heritage like Christina Aguilera and Cameron Diaz? Are they still Latino?
I don’t know if I can add value to this or not, but I found this write up very intriguing and felt the need to comment. I’m a 6’5 Mexican American, tanned skinned, physically fit male, born and raised in Ohio, with a nice smile and solid hairline lol. Throughout my experience, as I’m a well traveled individual, and financially well off, I visited/hung out in cities all over America and the world. I’ve been blessed to meet every type of race possible, and through my experiences, white latina/white Hispanic women are by far the worst at looking down upon darker shades of people than themselves. I’ve experienced this in Miami, Chicago, Mexico City, Monterrey, Montevideo, Uruguay and Buenos Aires, Argentina. I haven’t been to the other big latin America cities as of yet, so I can’t speak for those. I’ve also been to Poland, Ukraine, Australia, Turkey, Ireland, Sweden, Germany to name a few, and the women I met were far more genuine and pleasant to be around with, whether they were white as snow, dark, or in the middle caramel, they never looked down me, not even an ounce, or talked like they were better than me. I’m a chemical engineer by trade for PPG, but have sinced moved to the financial department that works on expansion for exponential growth in potential foreign cities. So cool little story short, whether in the workplace, business, or out on the town, white Hispanic/ white latina women are something else, not saying anything bad, maybe your experience is different, i don’t know what their problem is, but I’ll try to stay open minded as i love all complexions. Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks again.
my family comes from costa rica, my dad married a white woman and had three kids. are we not latino? because yes i’m white but i’m also costa rican
WOW…people are missing the point.
The author is simply explaining that, in the U.S., you can “look” lily white from Northern Europe with blue/green eyes with blonde hair.
However, once it is known that your last name is Gonzales, Rodriguez, or Martinez (etc..) and you speak Spanish as a first or second language onlookers psychologically will categorize you as a brown Mexican and all the negative “stereotypical nuances” that are saturated with it. To many, the term Mexican is an image that is the face of the Latino/Hispanic ethnicity.
There is no denying millions of white latinos…but the Spanish language darkens the whiteness of your skin to brown. Like it or not.
There are millions of white Latinos throughout Latin America. In numerous cases they are every bit or worse of racists as their North American counterparts. Ask any of the black or pure indigenous peoples in the region.
Ironically, their hispanic whiteness will always be inferior to white-anglo-saxon-protestant supremists who view any hispanic of any color as inferior. A white latino/ hispanic will always have the smell of beans in thier midst. Especially if they speak English with a thick accent as Jorge Ramos, news anchor of Telemundo.
In other words Christina Aguilera will always be considered as the Mexican Brittney Spears, despite being her physical clone.
Very informative article. Thank you.
The article is bad. The author is racist. He conforms to the “colonizer” American mentality and isn’t even aware of it, despite all of his protests and activism.
I’m Brazilian, and white. My heritage is Portuguese and German, with some Dutch and French thrown over for good measure.
Living in California for the past five years, we found out that Latin identity is a myth. It is a Hispanic identity (mostly Mexican, but that is for some other time). My son’s school has a Latinos Unidos group, but he’s the odd man out, being the lone Brazilian. They don’t understand Portuguese (he has to speak Spanish); they don’t know Brazilian foods (very much NOT spicy); and we don’t celebrate Dia de Los Muertos. And worst of all, he’s seen as a nuisance they have to bear with, being from Latin America (i.e. a genuine Latin rather than all of the other kids).
And we are white. We didn’t struggle to come to the US, we were invited for our jobs. No crossing the desert with coyotes. No panic over ICE. No fear of deportation or profiling. We have Latin-sounding names. Nobody writes them properly as Portuguese has different rules than Spanish. We work in tech. My wife is c-level in a big corporation. I’m a consultant for another big corporation.
And we have American friends that we travel with. We have European friends that we party with. We have Asian-American friends that come to our house and our kids play together. Some very good Latin-American friends, but in fact not many of Mexican descent.
So I really can’t talk about the Hispanic community, as they haven’t let us in. But piecing it all together, I wouldn’t say it’s for lack of us trying or being open to it.
Be mindful of when racism, xenophobia and prejudice box you in a role that wasn’t designed by yourself.
And just to comment on something else, that the author makes very clear he adheres to, in Brazil we don’t really refer to other races or ethnicities as Asian-Brazilian, African-Brazilian, Italian-Brazilian or such. They’re Brazilians.
Como Latina e inmigrante a este país, que vergüenza da este artículo. Qué triste es ver y es el colmo que hasta este presente día estemos viviendo entre tanta ignorancia, juzgamiento e injusticia. Aquí el único mediocre eres tú Arturo Domínguez. La raza, etnicidad y nacionalidad son cosas muy diferentes y separadas pero juntas son extremamente importante para poder identificarse uno mismo con su propia cultura. Es imposible estar orgulloso de su patria, raza y origen étnico si uno no puede identificarse culturalmente. Que tristeza es ver a otro latino apuntando el dedo a su propia gente que son solamente culpables de saber de dónde vienen, estar orgulloso de eso y amar a su prójimo por lo mismo. ¡Edúcate!
So, to the author
A Southern Chilean of full Scottish ancestry is not White ?
A Southern Brazilian of full German ancestry is not White ?
An Uruguayan of full Italian ancestry is not White ?
An Argentinean of full Irish ancestry is not White ?
Why some people think they have the right to define others ?
Homogenizing Latinos or Hispanic is racism. Every person has a right to her or his identity.
uhhhh homogenizing white people is racism… if its alright with everyone, I have a very distinct ancestry with real people who lived in real places over the years.
Your ridiculous , most Italians especially Sicilians look like some Latinos because it isn’t a race moron.
@Maria O.
The author is not denying white latinos do not exist because they do.
The core point of his article, as I understand it, is that white-anglo-saxon-protestant racists will “always” view WHITE LATINOS through a “brown” lense. The spanish language, the corruption of governments, military totalitarian regimes, lack of technological advances, the mixture of races, no middle class which stereotypically define Hispanic America will always mark your white latino skin as “not-white.”
His title is a metaphor of how white North Americans will always view “white” Latinos/Hispanics as inferior whether you think so or not.
It’s very unfortunate people think this way.
Yes, but it does seem like he is denying that white latinos exist. We do, and americans are mostly the ones who apparently have problem understanding that. This point of view perpetuates racism and xenophobia. Also, one example is the fact that Brazil is one of the most racist countries in the world, and I don’t think that would really happen if latin americans were truly in this racial little box some people try to fit us in.
Well, if that’s what you think he signified, it’s a shame because not every white Anglo Saxon protestant is a racist, nor do all of them view another white, but latino/hispanic like me as inferior or through a “brown lense”. Spanish, like English, French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian & German are all Indo-European languzges.
This text seems awfully US and Hispanic centric to me. I wouldn’t call myself a ‘White “Latino”’, but I would for sure call myself a White Latin American. Because that’s what I am: a white individual born and raised in Latin America (still living here). Being born bellow the US and Canada doesn’t suddenly change my ethnic background. I have always being perceived as white by Lat. Americans, Europeans, US Americans… Everyone. You can’t tell I’m from here based on my name either. Not everyone has a Spanish last name, Arturo.
I have an issue with using the word ‘Latino’ in English (I have no problem using it when speaking Spanish or Portuguese) because of how it becomes a racial marker, which I haven’t seen being used the same way in LATAM. After learning English, I was surprised to hear things like: ’What are they? They look Latino to me.’ I mean, how can you tell if an Asian, Black, or White person is from here? Then I realized they mostly meant people who looked native from Mexico and Central America. When I was in school, forms came with the options: white, black, asian, indigenous, brown.
“Latinos who side with colonialists are traitors to our respective cultures now just as you would have been when our ancestors were nearly erased from history.”
I don’t know about that. See, my ancestors didn’t move to Latin America long enough ago to be the OG colonizers but they certainly moved into a land fresh of a genocide. Definitely more on the erasing than on the being erased side. I consider myself anti-colonialist/anti-imperialist and wouldn’t add the US, Spanish, Portuguese (any present/past colonial power) flag to my social media (quite cringe). Won’t make up fake ancestors to have less colonizer ancestry.
Racial relations/discussions where I’m from are very similar to the US. We also have lots of white supremacists and Neo-nazis. Telling white people they are not white doesn’t help. Many people whenever they get called out for racism already throw a ‘how can I be racist if my grandma was 1/4 black?’. And ‘We’re mixed nation. There’s no racism here.” Recently the first black woman elected city councilor in a nearby city started getting death threads by neo-Nazis as soon as results came in. In the 30s there was a Nazi newspaper being published there. They were already publishing pictures of jews in concentration camps in Ukraine and the west pretending they didn’t know what was going on and making their pretty penny.
Lars Schoultz wrote “Beneath the United States” showcasing the perception and an attempt to justify Latin America as being the inferior neighbor of the U.S.”
Mr. Dominguez begins his article with “Whiteness isn’t just based on skin color. It’s a mindset.”
Get it folks?
ok so me as a South White brazilian that was bonr in a european culture cause all my familly and frinds are european descendets, u teeling me that im not white and im native just cause i was born in this place (south or latin america) ? like bro wtf r u talking about principally in south brazil and chile, uruguai and maybe argentina we have more than a half of people with european descendent and identify as white. the term “latin america” shouldn’t even exist because geographically speaking we are in the american continent which is subdivided between central, north and south and culturally we cannot just say that all 20 countries have the same culture if we don’t even have the same ethnicity, example is haiti where the majority are of African descent, Bolivia where the majority are descendants of natives and southern Brazil or Uruguay where the majority are Germans and Italians.
Hey
Just educate yourself 🙂 Latinxs countries have an history of whitewashing by europeans, and guess what? It’s not nowdays white latinos’ fault
Over 40% of latinos are white
This is the dumbest thing I have read in a while. White hispanics DO exists just like any other shade of hispanic. There is notjing wrong with being a white hispanic as there is nothing wrong with being a black or native hispanic. A white hispanic only means that his ancestors were mostly european and we DO exist too. I swear you US born hispanics are the most cringy and “woke” of us all lol.
Los gringos estan obsesionados con la raza que impresionante, supuestamente son anti racistas y hablar tanto de la raza solo crea racismo
Jaja, lo dice el pendejo que vive en estados unidos
Omg the guy who wrote is is an idiot. Anyone so fixated on their race gender and sexuality are also idiots
I mean, you’re crazy if you think car loans, jobs, mortgages are affected by your name, litterly people are greedy and want to make money even police interactions don’t change after the initial interactions. I doubt that they run a plate and haven’t already made a decision. This is straight paranoia
As a European, I never understand these white, Spanish-looking Latinos to claim they’re native/people of color. Do you know that all these millions and millions of Portuguese, Spanish and Italian migrants that moved to Latin America are from a part of the world that belong in the categories: Western Europe / South Europe ?
Are you a light-skinned Latino, then a big chuck of your ancestors and DNA are from Europe, just like those other white Americans.
Yes, but you omitted the French who also migrated to Latin America from Latin Europe as did the Italians, Spaniards & Portugese who are the original Latinos since the term is derived from “Latin” which was the Ancient Roman language.
The author of this article is a hate mongering, paranoid fool. He has every right to spread this filth around, but he is not helping anyone. Not himself, not his people (whatever that means), not America, and not the world. He is a leech, trying to build his career on racist drivel.
I wonder where I’d fit into all of this because I’m definitely Hispanic but I am not Latino, Chicano or BIPOC. I come from a region of the States where Spanish Colonists were settled (Northern New Mexico and Southern Colorado afterward) before Mexico, before the Manifest Destiny all of that. We also have a history with converting and fighting with the Pueblo Natives and we partially mingled with them. We’re mostly Spanish to this day. We’re called Hispanos and it makes sense because we’re more Spanish-centric than a lot of Latin Americans. Now we’re the most Americanized. The newer generations don’t speak Spanish but we’re the remnants of the Spanish Empire. And we’re directly descended from Colonists. Sorry. I guess I’d be an enemy! The point I’m trying to make is that you can’t really put all Spanish-speaking people underneath one umbrella.
my wife is Mexican Hispanic i am white male. our baby has mothers skin color and my green eyes. so yes white Latino does exist.
You cannot put all Spanish-speaking people or people with Hispanic last names underneath one umbrella. Why does everyone have this idea that after the Spanish Conquest the Spanish just up and left going back to Spain? Some remained. Some stayed and intermingled with Amerindians. Has this guy ever heard of Criollos? I’m mostly Spanish. I’m what is referred to as a Hispano. We’re the mostly Spanish colonist-descended people who settled in what is now Northern New Mexico and afterward Colorado. Before Mexico, before the Manifest Destiny happened, there was that Hispano ethnic group. We had a history with Pueblo Natives and partially mixed with them but we’re still mostly Spanish to this day. This is a fact and a piece of history. I wonder If I’d be considered an enemy! No matter, I’m not Latino or Chicano. I’m Hispano, that’s my ethnicity and it’s legit an ethnicity as Cajuns from Louisiana.
Que dolor de ojos leer esto. Como se nota que es otro gringo que no sabe absolutamente nada sobre Latinoamérica y solo usa palabras en español (decir ‘barrios’ en vez de ‘neighborhoods’ es el colmo del postureo). Voy a escribir esto en español, aunque dudo que sea capaz leer algo en castellano viendo el cómo usa palabras que tienen traducciones exactas solo para aparentar.
Eso de que ‘nos robaron las tierras y la cultura’ para luego llamarse a sí mismo latino (no es latino, es un gringo; si no nació en un país Latinoamericano no se puede llamar a sí mismo latino) es lo más ridículo que hay. Hasta donde yo recuerdo los indígenas no hablaban una lengua basada en el latín antes de la llegada de los españoles, portugueses y franceses. El único motivo por el que somos ‘latinos’ es debido a los españoles y portugueses, y repudiarlos mientras se considera ‘latino’ es contradecir su propia existencia.
Por cierto, eso de la ‘latinidad’ (otra palabrita inventada por gringos como usted) no existe en Latinoamérica. Los mexicanos, colombianos, argentinos, chilenos, brasileños o cubanos no nos sentimos cercanos en casi nada aparte de hablar un idioma que muchas veces lleva a confusiones por términos locales. Que sus connacionales gringos no lo consideren parte de ellos no es culpa de nosotros los verdaderos latinoamericanos. Por cierto, eso de llamar ‘blancos’ a los anglosajones es la mayor gringada que alguien puede hacer, y peor fue cuando incluyó a los irlandeses y germanos como ‘non-white’. Como se nota que su forma de pensar no es para nada similar a la nuestra.
As a native American (UTE) I’m sick of Europeans claiming our skin cause gringos treat each other like a different species over territory wars. If you are not Spanish/white, then you have long hair? Speak a native language? Can read the Mayan calendar? Hilarious how white Spanish speaking short hair Hispanics want to be seen as some kind of native yet have zero respect for any native culture; and having items in your house like a picture of an Aztec many white people have Chinese and Native American décor don’t make you one. Do a dna test it will say you are a European. A self loathing White gringo appropriator like the rest. Latino = euro there is no latin natives of the Americas. When is the last pow wow you went to? Sounds like you probably had a Quince Neda. Is any one else NATIVE sick of Spanish people, who speak Spanish, a white language, who don’t respect any native traditions, who act, dress, talk, wear hair, like Europeans, claiming they are representing native?
Uh, Spanish people from Spain never claim to represent indegenous culture, what are you talking about. They are embarrassed by the cultures of Latin America haha (we hate them for it, but we also get along pragmatically)
Also I know many white Mexicans born here in Mexico who know Nahuatl and often take ceremonial trips to certain Aztec spots.
Do YOU speak a native Mexican language? There are more than 50, little bit of history for you: the aztecs were colonizers themselves and oppressed every tribe in the land. So let me know when you identify with a culture that WASNT oppressive
I have a question: If I am “white” and latina – first generation immigrant to the US… am I considered a person of color? or am I white? I am confused….
I’m Mexican (like born and raised in Mexico) and from my point of view this is absolutely ridiculous. All my friends are laughing at this too.
First off, you say you’re visually white, and claim that white people stole your “lands”. You know that there were Irish and American battalions that switched sides to defend Mexico right? But okay let’s say you identify more with the native people; well, they certainly didn’t look, act or speak like you, and btw it was quite complicated. Some people on the Mexican side may have identified as indigenous by blood but were heavily AGAINST the ownership by actual natives of land. Remember that Mexico was an empire at one point, it’s not like a bunch of tribesmen with one singular opinion haha.
Secondly here in Mexico (and other Latin countries) there are many many white people, I’m talking full white straight from Europe. There are also fully indegenous people who know exactly what tribe they’re from. There are also, mostly mestizos who just want to be Mexican and have warm memories in their home city.
thirdly, what on earth does Latino mean. I have never used that word for all 19 years of my life until I saw this post.
Fourthly we don’t all subscribe to spanish origin names. Some of us have indegenous names and it is common to give someone, regardless of their origin, Russian names. In fact I knew a mestizo Peruvian named Vladimir
Sure, maybe you don’t want to “be white” but man you are being really estadounidense in your hatred of the US.
No me diga. NGL i agree with you to an extent, except for the white part. Personally, i have a mental difference between white hispanic people and white americans. like, i live in Puerto Rico, and i myself am white, but not that much, cause like, most of the “white” people i know are mixed, but with a light skin tone. take me for example. On my moms side of the family it was tainos, some mulato dominicans, and west africans, and my dad was grand son of a west african slave and my spaniard grandpa, and i look really ethnic (curly hair, big lips, the works) except that im pale, so im classified as white, you know? and thats the case with most of my friends and the occasional acquaintence, because somewhere up the family tree, they got some non european genes in them, though thats just me, in my experience. In my head, i see white americans as like big old poster signs of europe, you know? Like, absolute nothing but white. Not to mention, i feel that theres also a big difference in culture and thats another distintion i personally have in my head, which is why i can kind of make sense what the author wrote, cause itr goes with what ive perceived in my life, and correlates with my own experiences.
I get what you mean by seeing white Americans are “white white” but that’s where you are wrong. They are mixed as well, there’s no country where you can say oh yeah that’s where whites come from lol white is a skin tone, it’s not a race. You get me? The Nords are not the same as the Dutch or the Irish or the French and they are just as mixed as Latinos are…my problem with this blog and it’s way or thinking is that it’s completely ignorant and garbage spat out by a hateful wannabe who wants to project on others based on his own insecurities. I can’t stand for Latinos who want to run around waving their ancestral flag in the US and the mentality that accompanies that behavior. It’s disgusting and ignorant, for that you should wave around every flag for which your DNA is made up of lol Nigerian, Chinese, German, Puerto Rican, etc etc…your back would break lol and even so it’s disrespectful to this country which in fact allows this behavior without viewing it as a traitor action to the United States which if you think about it, it is! Some ignorant fool for which I will reply to as well said if you think you’re a white hispanic it should be punished to the full extent of the law lmao what law? Punished why? How is that illegal to be right? Do you see how ignorant hateful garbage can be infectious like a disease that spreads within our Latino community and it’s only result is more ignorance. We Latinos have heritage from countries that are very shitty, corrupt, poor and violent by nature. Yet somehow we come to this country and we want to wave a flag like it’s above the US flag? When lost Latinos who do that are born here lol Puerto Ricans are technically from the U.S. they are not a separate country. Yet they act as if they are and in NYC Puerto Ricans act as if they are above all other Latino groups lmao which is ironic being that they aren’t a country and Mexico alone would swallow that island whole and shit it out…it’s an identity crisis. Instead of lifting each other up and embracing this country for all the rights and opportunities it gives us, we shit on each other and hate on each other for looking different?? How is that not irony, hypocrisy and blatantly racist?! We have to do better and this blog needs to be taken down before more young gullible minds start thinking this way. If you hate white people then you hate half of all Latinos and if you can’t respect this country you need to leave immediately. Growing up I was confused with being “white” or told I wasn’t Mexican enough because of how I look….then those same people would claim to be oppressed by white racists…and now I see they are just lost ignorant fools that need to be taught a lesson. No Cuban has any right to disrespect any skin color or country, that country treats its own people like animals and it is a country full of culture and many different skin tones so for This blogger to say this trash, he needs to be sent there and starve to death. It’s time we make a point and stop allowing this disgusting disgraceful behavior. If any Latino feels the same way he does, then denounce your religion right now! Stop praying to Jesus, he is not your god, he is not your savior. Our true ancestors had their own gods and religions and you are following and praying to your colonizers gods….moment of fucking truth! All Latino countries should denounce the Catholic Church and any religion or tradition imposed on our people through blood, rape and genocide. Time for the fucking truth or continue to be sheep that only cry about made up bullshit.
Well said! There is always that people that want to be victims no matter what. If you immigrate to another country, I feel like you should adapt and respect that country’s rules and laws, if you want to make a difference in the latino community, you should educate and help other fellow latinos, I am also light skinned and don’t look Mexican at all, but I don’t let that get over my head, I am not more than my brown or black brothers, however I do believe that you get respect if you give respect, thus said, don’t go into society doing crime or violence, Mexico was a more classist country and more racist towards the indigenous people, I also experienced racism from Mexicans that don’t look like me, they would call me “fucking whitey”. What am I supposed to do? dress up like a cholo or a ranchero? I just want to be a respectable citizen and I don’t want to be worried about race or being hated by either group.
Hispanics are NOT WHITE; NOT CAUCASIAN! If you claim as such on, say, the Census or a Job Application, you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!!!
You Black/browns come by the thousands to America leaving behind family, kids, wives, houses, etc… a vast amount of you carry third world diseases, covid, AND CRIMINAL HISTORY, running from your authorities etc..etc.. You sneak into America by the tens of thousands UNCHECKED for health, criminal past and recent felony crimes like murder, rape etc….
When same group gets here most carry there attitude, criminal behaviors, and their diseases and spreads them. Majority of you vote and support liberals whom are VERY VERY VERY well known world wide to be ANTIJESUS, ANTIBIBLE, AND ANTIWHITE.
YOU MUST BE FREAKING KIDDIING ME YOU BLANTANT MONSTERS!!
And you wonder why are just a bit concerned
Alright calm the fuck down ranger rick. Not all Latinos are as stupid and worthless as this Cuban piece of shit. The USA is at fault for allowing these nimrods to come to the US with political asylum and thus creating all of that bullshit so get your facts straight first…the USA also have political asylum to the MS13 from El Salvador. So calm your tits. Everyone is guilty to some degree but a real Latino that loves this country as his or her own will never say the stupid shit this dirty Cuban just dropped out of his gaping asshole.
Must be kidding me
What you sayin u stupid clown thickhead!There are white hispanic black hispanic yellow,all races latino.Latino its not about race.Isnt guillermo.del torro white?What a bullshit!Who should be prosecuted?Lol chill your ass down,u moron
Lmao this is complete garbage. This “writer” has an inferiority complex and hates white latinos. Yes white hispanics/Latinos are real…just like black Hispanics/Latinos are a thing. You hate mongering douche bag. I guess they let any retard write blogs and spread hate based on skin color nowadays. Latinos are a mixed people and some have white skin, like others have black skin and some probably look stupid as fuck just like you so you project how you feel unto others lol this is dumb AF! This whole website is retarded…a wannabe is someone who was born in this country (USA) and has the audacity to hate it and shame it and blame white people who founded this country for their own failures. This is why “white” people don’t like most Latinos, because they act like you…waving the flag that has no love for them and disgracing the flag that feeds them and shelters them and gives them rights to live a decent life. You are a disgrace…also speak one language at a time..speaking Spanglish is wannabe behavior. You probably can’t speak Spanish properly and fluently lol you are trash and all real Latinos hate people like you that give our heritage and culture a bad name. I am Latino and I married a white woman so my children will be white Latinos…that’s logical common sense you imbecile piece of shit! Wow lmaoooo also that Cuban guy with the Twitter post, idk if that’s you but that guy raising the Cuban flag and the American flag is a complete loser lol put that crappy flag away from which your family had to run away from for a better life. Respect the land you walk on loser! Look at Cuba now…..but you’re so patriotic lmao identity crisis is the number one killer for Latinos in the U.S.
You are a waste of space on this earth. If you were born in Shitty Cuba, swim back and starve to death…if you were born here, you’re 100% American from the USA and you’re the real wannabe here…lmaooooo what a fucking loser!
Whoa there, I respect your right to express an opinion, but please express it in a more respectful manner. Even if you feel enraged, if you show it in a less aggressive fashion, more people would be inclined to agree with you.
not that that is the point, but still, chill
Listen buddy, I could give two shits if you agree. Garbage like Arturo speak way worse than what I expressed, yet you sympathize with him….hmmmm that’s interesting. Maybe go look at the trash he posts on Twitter. He’s anti white anything….anti-American and Latinos who come to this country and hate it, while taking advantage of all the benefits that their own country would never give them are the worse kind of immigrant. The worst kind of people, so yes if he was born in Cuba, go back home and starve! If he was born here, he’s having an identity crisis like many Latinos have where they think they can trash talk the country that feeds them and gives them rights and opportunities found nowhere else in their ancestral land. Like chicanos who have been here for generations and yet wave the Mexican flag as if they were born in Mexico. They hate white americans, they talk with a made up accent and are anti government but they could never live in Mexico because of the horrible situation the country has been for over 60 years. People like Arturo need to learn the hard way that they need to shut their fucking mouth and stop promoting hateful propaganda or you will come across people like myself who will cut that shit down like a machete. No need for empathy, it doesn’t work here and I don’t need people like YOU to agree with me lmao there are millions or proud Latinos who respect our heritage and still praise our traditions no matter if you are a white Latino or a black Latino or a brown Latino. We are Latino!!! Color doesn’t depict who we are. That’s the beauty of being Latino! Saying hateful things about white Latinos For identifying as white Latinos is completely racist and needs to be thrown out into the ocean for the sharks to feed on. All of a sudden it’s okay to be proud of being a black Latino or brown Latino…but don’t you dare identify as a White Latino because there’s no such thing? Fuck offf he needs to take his ass to Cuba and see how they starve him to death. Cubans who come here are far more grateful than this piece of shit.
No, I don’t sympathize with Mr. Arturo, and before you commented the other stuff about me doing the opinion thing, i already know i misspoke and i commented that even before you made the latest comment Sir.
In regards to your comment about Chicanos, they’re proud of their heritage, and just because you embrace one doesn’t mean you don’t embrace the other, and celebrate that side of you. Just because you embrace one part of yourself, doesn’t mean you don’t do the same for the other.
I agree with you on the aspect of Latinos being multicolor, and, i repeat, that i never said you needed me to agree with you, i simply assumed (wrongly so) that you were making arguments on behalf of your opinion. Or more so expressing your opinion of Mr. Arturo. My mistake.
Please, the purpose of the original comment was to implore you to tone it down with the violent way of speaking, and was meant in a peaceful, non aggressive way that was never made to make one feel(presumably) attacked. Pardon me if it had that effect.
In actuality i do agree with you mostly.
To finish this off, id like to address the fact that, please, for the love of God (or whatever), please, chill it with the aggressive language. Excuse me if i was somehow disrespectful, to the point it merited such a violent response in your second comment.
P.S. in conclusion, i was trying to ask you to be less violent with your wording, and gave you and argument that seemed to anger you further, pardon me. Now allow me to express a different, or more evolved argument. Since you posted your opinion on the author, i assume you wanted people to hear it. From my standpoint, if you want people to read your opinions and your perspective, you express yourself in a more diplomatic way. That is all. Please mind that I am a 15 year old minor, Sir. Feel free to ignore what I’ve said on account of my immaturity and age.
Arturo Dominguez is the equivalent of white trash but for Latinos lmao he is white and will deny until his last breath that he has any white in him. His idea of white is thinking you’re better because of your skin color. Arturo is probably 100% American with Cuban roots. He has never suffered, he has never struggled, he probably has all the benefits that what he thinks a white person has…he hates himself and he hates other Latinos that look white if they consider themselves white Latinos. Imagine a redneck, who denies all ties to the British empire or Protestant ancestry lmao Arturo Dominguez needs to be arrested for being a traitor to his flag…oh wait, that wouldn’t happen because in the US. He has rights to speak of whatever garbage his ignorant brain can shit out lmao if he were actually Cuban however, he would know not to speak such garbage and be so racist. Real Cubans have suffered for many decades, real Cubans are still suffering and dying of hunger as we speak. Arturo sits in his abuelas basement and writes hateful blogs after a downing a bottle of mamajuana y watching travesuras en pañales lmao Arturo is the perfect of example of an anti-Latino. A retarded fool who spreads hate simply because his underdeveloped brain can not comprehend race or history for that matter. Every Latino reading this, I want you to know that the “white” man isn’t our enemy anymore, he was when they colonized our native lands and oppressed us for hundreds of years, when they imposed their religion and language on us or killed us if we denied it. If you are a true Latino, you don’t hate on other Latinos and how they identify. You teach them that it’s time to let go of the shackles, body, mind and spirit. A true Latino- which is what Arturo desires to be- is aware that if you want to be the change, you stop following European religion, start learning your native language and practice your native religion….if you are not willing to do that…then shut the fuck up!!!!!!!! Even our native ancestors were white because of world trade with the Chinese and the Nords…the colonizers were not the first white people we mingled with…you dead brain moron!!’ Go to Cuba and try talking this garbage down there, see where you end up!
I wonder how much racism against whites will exist after the corporate oligarchs cull 7 billion useless eaters…
Ok woketard normie, lol
YES THE SPANISH EUROPEANS WHO WERE WHITE COLONIZED LATIN AMERICA. THERE ARE PLENTY OF WHITE LATINOS AND LATINAS. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. YOU PROBABLY ARE SOME NASTY PUERTO RICAN OR DOMINICAN. I AM BRAZILIAN WHITE MOFO……..
White to me is a social classification not a physical one. There are Muslim Europeans (Albanians and Bosnians) and these people are definitely not treated as white when people find out they follow Islam and their cultural background. So it really depends what the term “white” is really referring to.
I also noticed you left out Eastern Europeans when referring to Western Europeans colonizing the world. Eastern Europeans are innocent because they did not colonize nor enslave any non-Europeans. As a result Eastern Europeans do not carry the white man’s burden and hence are not white. If “whiteness” is an ideology as you said, it seems like EE’s are not part of it.
So really it is clear race is a social invention intended to divide people based on things they cannot control. Which is the biggest evil of all.
I agree
Thanks for your input
So I was born it says I am just WHITE on my birth certificate. I’m also hispanic tho This wud make a white hispanic… make sense? White for America still hispanic tho. Race is crazy. Also I’m hispanic but very pale? Idk what wud u say I am?
Most Latino are mixed with Spanish. A quarter of all Latinos have Jewish blood. Get a DNA test and learn about your real heritage, not La Raza. You need to get educated on your roots and not the agenda you were indoctrinated by at a young age, this article shows me then need to educate our children so they won’t develop identity issues and feel lost like you. Most people just want to work and have money and raise a family . We should not have to worry about race unless we face overt discrimination. Our world is not racist, it’s classist , corrupt and nepotistic.
Joseph is the only other truly educated Latino on this entire blog. Good for you brother. You’re 100% correct on everything you said. Finally someone who can see beyond the blindfold.
I am Spanish, white and proud.
I’m from Argentina, and all of my ancestors came from Europe (South-west France and North Italy). I have nothing to do with Mexicans or Colombians. Why do people want to put us all under the “Latino” umbrella?
You are all monsters guilty of the worst crimes committed in History. You all deserve to die and hopefully China will slaughter all of you one day. Conquistador rapists deserve jesucide, just like you gave to other cultures and religion. The NAZIs were saints compared to the Spanish and Portuguese Empires.
Excuse me, I’d like to strongly disagree with your opening statement. White Latinos DO exist. I am a white Latina, and you don’t get to dismiss my identity, or anyone else who looks like me, just because you might be darker, or just because you think every white person is automatically racist. Educate yourself, please.
Latinx exist not Latinos.
Latinx is retarded and LATINOS don’t like that retarded word
Cualquiera que diga “Latinx” es un yuppy blanco
This article made me laugh to the core. White Mestizos will always make me laugh, exploiting their 2 per cent of non-European genes to claim they are “others”. It’s not because the Anglo Saxons value you all as being second class citizen Whites that you are different. You are still white. Now, to claim that white Latinos do not exist is a reach and totally false. How do you call the millions of Italo-Argentinians, German-Brazilians and other colonizers who have settled in South America over the past centuries and who never mixed? Aren’t they white? So yeah, you are WHITE and should accept it and stop with the BS.
[…] For Latinos, this moment was also accompanied by the amplification of Afro-Latino voices condemning Latino whiteness as part of anti-Blackness. Many white-presenting Latinos expressed discomfort at being implicated with racism, as reflected […]
Soy de Cuba, me mudé a Estados Unidos cuando tenía 14 años (ahora tengo 33). Enfrenté muchos más problemas bajo el gobierno del comunista en Cuba, de los que jamás enfrenté en Estados Unidos con la “gente blanca”. Mi tío y mi sobrino están en Combinado del Este porque vendían dvd’s estadounidenses a sus vecinos.
En mi experiencia, los latinos nacidos en Estados Unidos se consideran a sí mismos casi de la misma manera que los negros, y eso siempre ha sido divertido y extraño para mí. Si vas a cualquier país de América Latina o el Caribe y les dices que “no son blancos”, te mirarán como un extraterrestre de otro planeta.
Además, quiero decir que la gente de las Islas y América Latina son descendientes de los españoles. Hay algunos con ADN nativo en ellos como el Tainó o el Azteca, o lo que sea, pero la mayoría de los latinos son declinados del país de Europa Occidental, España. Los españoles son gente blanca. Blancos que participaron en la esclavitud. El español, el idioma que hablo ahora, es un idioma europeo blanco. Negar tu blancura es irresponsable, porque estás negando que tus antepasados no participaron en las mismas atrocidades que los británicos, portugueses y otros colonizadores que llegaron a América.
This asumptions can only come from an imbecile who knows shit about history and ethinic background.. first of all , white is a colour and latino is not a race. there is no white race.. there is caucasian types mongoloids and negroids.. when people use the term “latin” they refer most of the time to people who have amerindian blood..or are commonly known as “half breeds” , skin colour does not define someones race.. unless you are obviously a black person but ive seen people from India being confused with black people.. even tho Indians dont have the same features.. so when you talk about “latin” people you are talking about a large heritage of different ethnical groups
Lets begin with this.. so called white people came from the middle east..and the north Africa.. the went through the mediterranean sea into Spain and Italy , Greece , France.. etc.. later they went even further and reach northern places.., im going to explain using simple words .. Caucasoid people are defined mainly by their features which is the bone structure.. which is very different to the bone structure of Mongoloids or Negroids.. people must understand that caucasian people are not only Scandinavian or Bretons.. those are the ones who have the lightest skin colour..
but mediterranean people are also caucasoids and not beacuse they have light skin colour , but beacuse of the bone structure.. so White latinos in fact dont exist.. beacuse Latin people are caucasian , and latin american people are the mix of Indigenous people which originally came from Asia which are Mongoloids and mixed with Spanish or Portuguese which are originally Mediterranean and came from the Middle East.. So then again , Not beacuse someone doesnt have pale skin means he aint caucasian.. and not beacuse someone has light skin means he is caucasian .. ive seen ginger people who have wide noses and a lot of similarities with negroids.. and ive seen Asian who have lighter skin than German people.. and Ive seen Latinos who have dark skin and blue eyes.. But what defines is not isolated features , but the bones.. thats about it.. hope you learned something..
I’ll write in English, so you understand Arturo, because by the looks of the very little Spanish you use throughout your text about being Latin, you don’t seem to have good command of the language.
The VAST majority of people who are actually from Latin America don’t think of themselves as Latino. See, we in Latin America don’t really think of each other as brethren countries or similar to one another. Latin America is, after all, a huge place with huge cultural, geographical, economic and social diversity. Sure, we consider some countries more similar to others. I’m from Uruguay and we share a long historic connection with Argentina to the point where we were the same country for a while, we have similar dialects, the same types of immigrants founded the countries and still make up the majority of the population, so naturally, we consider Argentina our “big brother”. But I wouldn’t call myself a Rioplatense. We’re Uruguayans and Argentinians and Colombians and Venezuelans and Peruvians and Ecuadiorans. We don’t usually bunch ourselves together. This is a little off-topic, but neither do Europeans think of themselves in all-encompassing terms. Europeans don’t think of themselves as White, they think of themselves as English and Norwegian and German and Portuguese.
You were educated in the American education system so you probably think that there’s a huge ghetto in varying shades of brown from Tierra del Fuego all the way to Rio Grande, so allow me to educate you. The country I’m from is a high-income country with very little poverty (less than the US) and exceptional standards of living (higher than several western European countries). European immigration was the main source of immigration, to the point where 96% of the population is of European descent within the three previous generations. To put that into perspective, only one person in twenty-five has a great-grandparent who was not born in Europe. Telling a White Uruguayan they’re not White, but that they’re wannabes will be met with laughter and confusion, but most likely with “why are you so obsessed with race?”. I’m inclined to believe an Argentinian would feel the same way, and so would a Brazilian from one of our neighboring states (sorry Brazil, I don’t know the name of your states next to us).
So next time you’re in the US-Latinx Association Town Hall Meeting or wherever y’all get these crazy ideas from, please keep in mind that:
#1: Latin Americans don’t generally use the term Latino
#2: Latin Americans don’t normally count privileged kids who were born in the States as “one of us”. Born in America=American.
#3: The irony of you bunching all of us together while denouncing Trump bunching all Asians together as Chinese is not lost in me.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk
Juanita is a stereotypical Latina who happens to be blond, blue eyes and white.
She is very religious and does not believe in birth control or abortion. As many Latinas are.
She is a chef at Dennys not a cook.
She has proper documentation and speaks English very well.
She happens to have FIVE sons and she named them all Juan!
When asked if it got confusing at times, she replied that if she talks to them individually she calls them by their “father’s” name.
Go on Juanita. This thread is as stupid as my comment. LOL
Let’s go back to Europe ok Spain and the rest of the Spanish are in the Iberian peninsula. They actually came from Egypt. So when the Spanish was made after years . Let’s go to the other side. Some of the Egyptian went to the middle east and travel all the way to Europe and the Germans were formed so now the Spanish and the Germans met and breaded together. Guess what they were long lost brothers . Remember it started in Egypt wow. Now the Scottish and Irish was made some how with all kinds of mingle. So Spanish and English mixed together for years . Then a English man brought a ship to American and took over land and a Spanish man from the Iberian peninsula found south America and Cuba and took land and mingle in. I’m from America and did a DNA test I have Iberian peninsula in me Spain actually and I have middle east as well as great British. Now I have more great British in me of course. But I get pretty tanned up kinda dark depending on how long I want to stay in the sun I have blue eyes that change brownish blond hair and I been talk to by Spanish language people thinking I was Spanish until I talked. But that’s in the mid summer. With sunglasses on. So Cuba and south America you are us white people long lost brothers and sisters get over it it’s the truth and the way it is and white people get over it that’s the way it is. We need to come together and bring a new age in come together again like we did in old Europe yes that’s the truth I bet if alot of cubins and south Americas did a DNA it would show up in Spain and that means I have a part of your same DNA ha ha you hate me and you think I hate you but I don’t just see what I found look up queen Scott’s she was a queen in Egypt that went up the Iberian peninsula and was buried in Scott land. That is our ancestors peace God bless and love ya
You people who try to cling onto the term Latin/o/a make me laugh. Especially when you try to dictate who’s Latin and who is not. Let’s get it straight! None of you ever spoke Latin. Hell! none of your ancestors spoke Latin in your country nor are you from the region the Latin tribe inhabited. The Latins are dead, they were an ancient Italic tribe of central Italy. Who fought the Romans (Estrucan tribe) for stealing their language and culture and Latinizing other people. Look up the Roman-Latin wars! Stop trying to erase actual Latin history to make yourself feel special. They were not located in the Americas nor Spain, Portugal or France. Only Italy!! You are only Latin because you come from a country that speaks 1 of many Neo-Latin languages (Sardinian, Italian, Romanian, Catalan, Spanish, Portuguese and French (from closest to Latin to furthest)) Funny how those whose language is closest to Latin are not considered Latin anymore, Funny how those whose origin tribe was the Latins can’t claim their ancestors due to the huge culture appropriation and stealing of LATIN identity that the Americas continue to do.
If you are not from Lazio-Latin Latium (which means the region of the Latins) you have no business saying who is Latin and who is not because you’re a linguistic Latin! Meaning you speak a Neo-Latin language.
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“We live in an age of apologies. Apologies, false or true, are expected from the descendants of empire builders, slave owners, persecutors of heretics and from men who, in our eyes, just got it all wrong. So with the age of 85 coming up shortly, I want to make an apology. It appears I must apologize for being male, white and European.” –Sir Alec Guinness
“my people are the most racist people in the world” –Carlos Mencia
Arturo.
In the US;
1) 45% of hispanic children are born to unwed mothers second to African Americans which is 75%,
2) 30% of prison inmates are hispanic, second only to African Americans with is 40%,
3) 11% of hispanics earn a four year bachelors degree, which is the lowest attainment of all ethnic groups. African Americans 12%, whites 38% and Asians 54%.
White Latinos or no white latinos? Who cares. Stop cheating and beating your wives.. Get your priorities straight.
Arturo Dominguez.
48% of hispanic children are born to unwed mothers second to the 72% born to African Americans.
31% of hispanic children have absent fathers, 57.6% of African Americans, 20% of non hispanic whites.
In prison, hispanics account for 30.5% of the population, of 2 million, a close second to 38.3% of African Americans.
Only 15% of hispanics, over age 25, have a four year bachelor’s degree, behind African Americans at 21%, non-hispanic White at 35% and Asians at 54%.
White Latinos or not please stop cheating and beating your wives and get your priorities straight. My opinion amigo.
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This is one of the most hateful, absurd pieces of emotional projection I have ever read. Juvenile, sad. How about rebelling against the message that “You are oppressed, act like it or I denounce your heritage”.
As a non American, its hilarious to see this. Latinos ARE white, if not, then the majority in the US aren’t considered white either, by your definition. If your country was colonisied by a European country and the people that now reside there are majority ethnically from a European country: IE (All Latinos). Then yes, you’re white. Latinos are white folks, this isn’t a debate.
lol, see you around when Genetic Engineering, CRISPR and other technologies become available. The future will look very white for sure xd
All of you need an education in Roman history so you can learn what Latin/Latino means. No, you are Latins Americans and stop using this term Latino which is even grammatically wrong in English-correct is Latin/Latins. Latin/Latino means Roman, Roman languages and Roman culture and it doesn’t have anything to do with your Ethnicity, Race and Skin Color.. Blame Mexican Chicano Frank del Olmo for this mess. What he did 40 years ago he wanted to unite all the Spanish-speaking people of the Americas under one label but instead of choosing “Latin American/s” which is the correct term he abbreviated the term and made it “Latino” and changed the entire meaning of what Latino/Latin really meaning. From a Roman linguistic and cultural meaning he transformed it into.an Ethnicity and Skin Color for his people. Not Right. You already have your names like Mexicans, Hondurans, Cubans…and Latin Americans and these are the name which you have to use and not making up others by stealing other people (Latin Europeans) cultural identities.like the new ones “Latinx”. What you’re doing is called cultural appropriation and manipulation. Latins means Romans and it’s not you, These are the real Latins: Italians, French, Romanians, Portuguese and Spaniards and have been Latins for more than 2000 years since the Romans.Your lies cannot change history.
@Regis Valenti Sr. I’m a real Italian from Italy not a fake Hispanic or Arab from Usa or others countries and I confirm 95% what you said apart the thing about Romanians who absolutely AREN’T Latins their race, culture, language and mentality is totally different to the rest of real Latins like us, French, Portuguese and Spaniards, just cause they have a part of Latin doesn’t mean they’re like us in fact we spot them to be the opposite in Italy we’re plenty of them they’re totally Slavs like the rest of the others Slav immigrants we have like Albanians, Macedonians, Uckrainians and Moldavians.
When Romanians talk in their native language we don’t understand anything unlike it is for Spanish that we understand like as 70% and French like 50%. We’re plenty of Central-Southern Americans immigrants the ones called Latinos and we understand a lot their language without study it cause it’s our sis language, but apart this similar thing they don’t have nothing of us like first at all the race, then the culture. So comical reading all these armies of nazi furious Hispanics and Arabs who fake and claim to be Italians like Ariana Grande who’s Amerindian and Lady Gaga who’s Levantine. Muricans believe we’re black of these two races cause you/they identify with the Southern immigrants especially Neapolitans and Sicilians the ones who came to Usa who in reality are a mix of Arabs+Spaniards and other little foreigner races cause South Italy centuries ago had multiple foreigners mass invasions. I can confirm it cause I’m a Southern of real ancient Northern Spaniard root from Aragon and Castilla regions where our ancestors came from. The black/brown haired and black/brown eyed on white skin and delicate Euro face are the Southerns who you foreigners believe to be the typical Italians who instead are the white means Euro/Northern Spaniards, and the black Italians are again the Southerns who are instead Arabs.
Hispanics who despite they deny it to be are mainly racially and culturally a mix of Arabs and Spaniards not or others Euros, Arabs too cause they have lot of them brought by Spaniards who are literally half of them I meet so many Spaniards tourists and exchange students in Italy and half the time they are Semitics and the white have always dark eyes and dark hair.
So comical reading Spaniards claim their countrymen from the North are light haired and light eyed cause Is totally false we Southern Italians are they’re direct descendants and we’re dark.
Spaniards and Hispanics who both like to spend their time on insulting and attacking us due to their inner natural hate, jealousy and eviless.
“White” Latinos are just light ethnics cause they’re not fully Euros like the “white” from Usa and the others from New World countries, having light colors doesn’t mean to be automatically white means Euro in fact generally you and they have very different faces on thick and big features that for us Euros from Europe are weird, exotic and caricatural. Many “white” Hispanics and Muricans, Canadians, Southern Africans, Australians and New Zealanders don’t look Euros in the Old Continent.
German has a part of Latin but is not a Latin language like its people aren’t.
You’re just mad because whitey whooped ya.,and on your death bed you will look around and realize,whitey is still running the show……croak….flatline…….by the way Spanish are European you speak a european language you’re culture is white Spanish are white .some have turk in them…but Turkish are white too.so you are just an ignorant hater .wtf is a Latino anyways?wtf is that?latin is white,Cubans are white.black Cubans are black..mixed are mixed…you need to understand you got white blood in your veins…embrace it be part of a winning team…or fight against the tides..and don’t get anglos mixed up with jews.jews do most of the scanless shit not anglos…get it right youclmmie asshole you are probably a crypto Jew yoursrelf.iberal anti white blogs are your choice of weapon.why not disguise yourself as a latino.??? got you muthr fukr.youre a fraud. And you’re pussy ass wouldn’t last a week in communism.youd be crying like a pussy.
If this guy is you Arturo Dominguez https://images.app.goo.gl/m4Tgk9aX4qv1Svih8
you’re not white means Euro this face is typical Semitic of Arabs not of Europeans.
Whiteness concept in the New world countries like in Usa and Hispanic countries is upside down for you just a white skin means to be European but it’s false cause features worth you never have been to Europe and you don’t know how we Euros are made for real, then you are brainwashed by Murican propaganda to be the “purest whites ever existed”.
But the sad truth is that all people from the New world countries especially Usa the most super mixed land of the world are only a bunch of nazi racist filthy mutts who hate and not tolerate others races especially the Afros cause they’re darker than you. Genetically you are mutants, rubbish, hybrids.
Hispanics are much wrost violent, lazy and criminals than Africans from Africa and Afro-Americans from Usa I see how they behave here in Italy they’re truly beasts Africans are surely much better and they can teach to them how to be good, workers and civilizated.
The real Africans are you.
You Hispanics must start to accept and respect others races instead to play the victims of racism and to throw up your burning anger towards everybody.
Arturo Dominguez if this guy is you https://images.app.goo.gl/m4Tgk9aX4qv1Svih8
you’re not white means Euro this face is typical Semitic of Arabs not of Europeans.
Whiteness concept in the New world countries like in Usa and Hispanic countries is upside down for you just a white skin means to be European but it’s false cause features worth you never have been to Europe and you don’t know how we Euros are made for real, then you are brainwashed by Murican propaganda to be the “purest whites ever existed”.
But the sad truth is that all people from the New world countries especially Usa the most super mixed land of the world are only a bunch of nazi racist filthy mutts who hate and not tolerate others races especially the Afros cause they’re darker than you. Genetically you are mutants, rubbish, hybrids.
But the sad truth is that all people from the New world countries especially Usa the most super mixed land of the world are only a bunch of nazi racist filthy mutts who hate and not tolerate others races especially the Afros cause they’re darker than you. Genetically you are mutants, rubbish, hybrids.
Arturo Dominguez if this guy is you https://images.app.goo.gl/m4Tgk9aX4qv1Svih8
you’re not white means Euro this face is typical Semitic of Arabs not of Europeans.
Whiteness concept in the New world countries like in Usa and Hispanic countries is upside down for you just a white skin means to be European but it’s false cause features worth you never have been to Europe and you don’t know how we Euros are made for real, then you are brainwashed by Murican propaganda to be the “purest whites ever existed”.
Then there are those mediocre Latinos who embrace whiteness in America as if taking sides with the oppressors” As if Iberian slave bangers and caste makers are better than the Anglo- ones. Talk about viewing history in a vaccum. Yes, discrimination in Latin America.
You still have Spanish ancestors, who were murderers and rapists, so you’d better get off of your pedestal, lol. You are trash, like all of us. 🙂
LOL. Of course there are white Latinos. Just like there are black Latinos or, often, Latinos with mixed backgrounds. Speaking as a white “Anglo” American, most Latinos are considered white by Anglos. Sure, we recognize their Latin American roots. The truth teller is that no Anglo of either gender would hesitate to marry a Latino. My wife is Colombian with muxed heritage. She has always just considered a white Latino. The author has some serious head problems and insecurities. Ana de Armas isn’t white? LMAO!
@Tuffy lol Turkish aren’t white cause they’re not Euros you don’t know them only a non Euro like you can say it and then I repeat Spaniards have lots of Arab I know them unlike ya.
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Imagine being this fucking stupid, im glad most people here can see through this bullshit you just wrote, pendejo
Lols for days here. There’s a whiff of 4-Chan-nes, that is a little tricky to pinpoint. Anyway, white Latino here – Blond hair, green eyes. Danish flia. settled in NQN, then, Buenos Aires. Danish Last name, Spanish middle name. There’s lots of us there in Argentina . Good luck with all this -ish. Greetings from NYC.
@Chivilcoy Drip you must show your face before claim to be white-Euro and take dna test cause have light hair and eyes doesn’t mean to be automatically white and Nordic in fact “white” Americans like the ones from the New World Countries have creepy faces being you and them heavily mixed to non-Euros also.
Lol Argentinia is mostly made by the Spaniard descents not by Scandinavians hahaha in fact the majority of you Argentinians are dark not super light here in Europe we have lots of you as immigrants only a little part of you are light you fit perfectly to Spain your first home you inherited their immense racial and culture inferiority complex you’re Spanish in every meaning rotfl!
I know how you Argentinians are so super nazi racists and have the white&Nordic idiology&obsession like Muricans you’re the Nazis of Central-Southern America but sorry you still are just mestizos not purely Euros, you are aliens in Europe especially for your savagery you’re much worse than Arabs who are muslims, face it that’s your inferiority.
It’s really weird watching people who are majority European try to say they aren’t white lol.
First off, admit you are mixed and stop ignoring the fact that “mix” is still mostly European. People who are a quarter Asian but are only Black passing dont call themselves Asian then nobody questions it – people who are a quarter Black but only white passing dont call themselves Black without anyone saying anything.
How are you comfortable claiming to not be white when your language is 100% European?
When your culture is clearly a variation made of mostly unchanged European traditions?
What about the white male fascination with the “Latina” phenotype…are you going to admit it gives you too much preferred benefit over others in white mens eyes to give up despite the fact most of Latinas have European phenotypes with slightly darker skin tones?
Are you going to acknowledge so many Latinos are actively white passing and nobody knows you’re “Latino” until you tell them which means you are experiencing implicit benefits from looking white as well as any minority benefits that may be given to by claiming “Latino”?
How are you comfortable ignoring your majority European genetics and claiming to be native when unmixed indigenous groups within your cultures are treated worse by you? An indigenous boy in Mexico was set on fire this year by his “Latino” classmates. Or the Chinese people who were driven by Mexicos racism to nearly uninhabitable Mexicali & had to create an underground city? How about the LA council of latinos who just got caught being racist towards Black people & anti-Semitic to Jews in their private board conversation?
Or that your culture pushes the same sexism/misogyny/slut shaming that “white people” do?
Or the insane colorism/featurism that still holds your European Spanish roots as being the ultimate beauty standards?
Or that you have the exact same totally evil abrahamic Catholic religion as the colonizers you reject association to, did?
How about the rampant racism against Black people in your cultures who are told they arent Latino? Or the general worse treatment of darker skinned people in your culture?
….sorry but you’re coming off as white people who just want to deny you are as white and racist as “Anglo” white people because you want to feel special in the eyes of that white group and use your “non-white” status as a shield as to why you yourselves cant be pieces of shit to actual non-passing non-white people.
Hahahahaha Noah Loomis I repeat again Hispanics are mostly dark mestizo/castizo and natives not mainly Euros I see the millions we have here in Europe.
The little ones mainly Euros have a non-Euro part that made them soooo different to us Euros from Europe. Me as a native Euro I don’t believe “white” Hispanics and the other fakes white from other mixed countries like the self-proclaimed white muricans who scream and identify themselves as Euros just cause they have a part of us not total are identical to us Europeans. You’re just the evil crap insane scum version of us you developed such divergent cultures and ugly ways of living that are so aliens here in Europe.
You must be clear and humble to yourselves you must say and think to be mixed cause that’s your real and only being. Don’t push yourselves to someone who are the opposite of you only cause you hate your being and prefer to be like your idols.
Real latinos are white dumb fuck. Latin is a European language and ethnicity dip shit. Real latins are southern European not mestizo mutts.
latino and hispanic are not a race but are a ethnic group. Hispanics as well as latino can be from any race. The can be considered mixed, black, white, native or asian. Latinx is by means a person born (in North America) a person of Latin American origin or descent. I personally find it funny seeing a bunch of adults fighting over their opinion. Latino can be anyone in the Caribbean such as Haitians. Please be more specific since hispanic and latinos are not the same thing.
Clearly there are many White Latinos and your answer shows your ignorance. There are millions of people in Latin America of pure European descent in countries like Argentina, Cuba, Brazil and Uruguay who are by definition White by virtue of the fact that they are of pure European descent. There are millions of more Latinos who are predominantly European and only slightly mixed with Native and/or African who can pass as White Europeans and they are White as well.
The large issue is that you seem to have a victim mindset. You are looking for excuses to hold you back. If you look for injustice, you will find it. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. There is some discrimination out there, yes. But the more you think about it, it becomes more like a reality and people smell your inferiority complex. Focus instead on how you can succeed and create value for others.
World famous golfer Lee Trevino said “I used to be a poor Mexican, now I’m a rich Spaniard”. He may have been half way joking when he said this but sometimes how you perceive yourself carries over into your life. People might say he’s a self hater by making a comment like that and nowadays such a comment wouldn’t be considered woke. But I guarantee you he is more sucessful than you are. He has a net worth in excess of $50 million and has a blonde wife 20 years younger than him. I don’t think he cares if you think he has a colonial mentality.
Tremenda estupidez de gringo ignorante… Claro que existen los hispanos blancos… esa basura de creerse negros y victimas es solo de USA… Estos gringos son tan ignorantes que creen que las razas son colores. Los hispanos somos causcasicos en su mayoria aunque los hay tambien asiaticos y afro (guinea ecuatorial por ejemplo). Caucasicos = Blancos! salgan del termo vayan a sudamerica o a españa si no me creen. Estos gringos piensan que todos los latinos son como mexicanos o puerto riqueños, y lo mas gracioso es que en esos paises tambien hay hispanos caucasicos con piel blanca.
I was born in Uruguay. In my birth certificate and my cedula de indentidad and my passport my “race” is white. My ancestors are Mediterranean and a German grandmother. My skin is not brown(well, politically brown) Im olive, since Im mostly Spanish,italian,portuguese and French . In the United States Im forced to deny part of my identity. I am 100% hispanic, latinamericana, Im also white ,however Im not Northern European so I dont look like most American whites. There ARE Uruguayans who are of different backgrounds and look like American whites. Some of us look like American blacks and some of us are in a a range of shades. This article is written from a very americanized view of race, estadounidense,no latinoamericano. For us born elsewhere, I guess we have a more global point of view. The US is in many ways the center of the universe,I get that, but dont be so arrogant to insult us who were actually BORN latinos, that we are denying our identity. We dont have to pretend to be latinos, or worry about denying or accepting anything. We ARE the real thing. dont force us to fit into your estadounidense idea of who we should be . I am ME y no jodas mas.
@Claudia you have olive skin you’re not white as color and surely not as face olive skin is typical of Arabs who are Semitic not of Mediterraneans who are white skinned and have European face cause we are Europeans the olive-dark Southern Europeans who are just a part not all come from Arabs so you’re not really European but just another black wannabe white.
You latinos have an odd whiteness standard like Americans and every non-Europeans you don’t know in details we Euros lot of white Latinos and white Americans in Europe don’t look Europeans but in your countries they’re totally like us, that’s absurd.
There’s too much hogwashed garbage in this article to address it all in one sitting willy-nilly.
Long story short, to start off: If the Americas do not have ‘eurolatins’ ‘caucasian-latins’ ‘white latins’
You’re not only denying the people who are born from the intermarriages of such joint couples and/or crossed region/nationale and ethno backgrounds. You are also tell me that the statistics as of 2019 are wrong? You’re addressing 23% of the superficially labelled ‘Caucasian’/’European’/’white’ US citizens. So, I ask you M. Dominguez; are you either saying that they are “NOT hispanic”[/latin/meso], or are you telling me that they are problematic for you because they acknowledge the disconnections and/or further mixtures in their appearance and/or genepool? If that 23% of your country’s 55-48% is to not longer be considered ‘white latino’ and simply ‘hispanic’/’latino,’ youre looking at the overwhelming fact that Euro and Latin are clearly equal in numbers in the US, and neither one is a minority.
And those Spanish surnames can just as easily be found on people from Europe as they can be on hispanic latin/meso folks.
Gig, it’s almost never the case that anyone is the color ‘white,’ or ‘black.’ so youre logic is off. and everyone’s problem was having inaccurate color coding titled a ‘race’ to begin with. Even albinic skin being white, looks pink from the blood and flesh under the skin. Porcelain and Ginger skin’s non freckled portions are as close to white as you’re imperfectly going to get. Dark Brown with or without a definite accenting hue is still brown; not black. How would you understand, when you probably believe that naturally black hair exists, when in fact even the darkest natural hair is still a darker shade of brown, more so than most skin is able to achieve. More akin to black than anyone’s skin naturally is’ yet neither are actually so.
If you all wanna know the ‘difference?’ All hispanics are american latin, AKA modern meso and/or south americans.
‘Latinos’ is a term typically given to hispanics, yet ALSO applies to other similarly colonized populations throughout meso and south america, even where Spain was not the first, only, and/or last contributing colonizer, or where ‘Spanish’ is simply not a primary regional language. Take the formerly french isles across the carribean, for one example.
‘North America’ (US & Canada), where their not deemed ‘meso,’ was considered excluded of the modern titles of ‘hispanic’ or ‘latino.’ Even if you take a crow 1st nation native and an Italiano; a french and souix; cherokee and irish; apache and Portuguese; miwok and Spanish. Why? That’s just where the boarderline was customarily set before PC was hyped, or science and modern rationality was applied. There was no castas and organized blended breeding in the US & Canada when France and Britain caught up and first landed. like there was elsewhere in the new world.
Likewise, port and spain’s influence on placed like the ‘Philipines’ is why the country is names as such and the peoples called ‘filipino’ today. Colonizers might have coined simple names and introduced Christianity, but there was an eventual choice between death by war, allied segregation, or interacting. Conquistadors were another step over the top: 1-4 generations deliberately crossed genepools, and left a lasting change on the culture, evolution, and language of people.
You speak so much about discrimination due to last names but what about me, a white Colombian-American Latina that was ADOPTED by white folks? My name is so incredibly white that other Latinos don’t usually believe I’m a fellow Latina. They say things like “really holding onto that 1%” despite my biological father immigrating over here from Colombia. And since I was adopted by European white people I can’t “prove” I’m Latina by speaking spanish. Your argument is ridiculous. There is a difference between ethnicity, race, and nationality, and even my 15 year old self understands the difference. My ethnicity is Colombian, my race is white, my nationality is American (U.S.), and you have no right to tell me otherwise!
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